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Old 4th December 2024, 08:27 PM   #1
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Default Rochefort....

with reference to cher Amice Marc M. who wrote : "
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Mmmm... rochefort,.... excellent, but we are deviating...

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1. my favorite is no. 10

2. but regarding Rochefort, most interesting is this piece of info on a the murder weapon of Prince Dominik Marquard Sebastian Christian von Löwenstein-Wertheim-Rochefort

https://glasmuseum-wertheim.de/en/degen/

https://www.wikiwand.com/en/articles...heim-Rochefort

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Old 7th December 2024, 06:10 PM   #2
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Most intriguing post! and wonderfully cryptic at least to me,
I have no idea what 'rochefort Marc M. was addressing nor what thread or context, and presume 'cher Amise' is an eponym for 'dear friend'.

What is #10?

The 'deviation' on rochefort and a murder weapon used is MOST fascinating, and refers to a GLASS bladed sword
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Most intriguing post! and wonderfully cryptic at least to me,
I have no idea what 'rochefort Marc M. was addressing nor what thread or context, and presume 'cher Amise' is an eponym for 'dear friend'.

What is #10?

The 'deviation' on rochefort and a murder weapon used is MOST fascinating, and refers to a GLASS bladed sword

FYI: cher Amice is used in the French speaking parts of Europe also as a sign of respect, but indeed it means literary dear friend

my apologies for the confussion caused! I was referring to the conversation with Marc on another topic:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=30334

and as for # 10 , I went of topic but #10 is one of my favorite Trappists and by the Rochefort brand which I drink drafted ( when in the city of Liege, Place de l'Opera , close to my hometown) which I frequently do visit.
On Rochefort: https://www.trappistes-rochefort.com/en/

My apologies again but being a beer sommelier I couldn't resist having a soft spot for Belgium, where most members from Belgium do understand my hint ..☺☼☺

Back on topic: Rochefort is also mentioned by Alexandre Dumas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comte_de_Rochefort

a nice website on their arms:
https://www.lemondededartagnan.org/e...usketeers/arms

by the way d’Artagnan was a musketeer who really did exist and got killed trying to capture my hometown (and most likely got buried there as well) :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charle...e_d%27Artagnan

but nevertheless even as an enemy, he got honored by 2 statues:
one at the actual spot he got fatally wounded and the second showing him in full musketeer glory ( although he was on old man of 62, comming back from being retired at that time of death...)
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Old 8th December 2024, 04:53 PM   #4
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Thank you so much GP! I did not mean to sound critical, but was curious to know more on what you were describing. Your colorful explanations put this in wonderful perspective which I very much appreciate!
I sort of understood the cher amise but was unsure as obviously my language skills are limited.

I do however know somewhat Dumas and "The Three Musketeers" and how exciting is must be to actually live in the very regions where the true dramas he recounted in his work took place, and in reality, not fiction.
Throw in the great hint on that beer, and the whole scene comes together, fantastic!!!
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