28th November 2023, 09:42 PM | #1 |
Member
Join Date: Sep 2022
Posts: 6
|
Crusader's Helmet Identification
Hello
Thank you for letting me join! I am hoping that someone on this forum can help me with identification on a crusader's helmet that I have. I have tried to research but have not been greatly successful. Anything would help! I appreciate it, thanks! |
29th November 2023, 12:49 AM | #2 |
Member
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 154
|
Welcome to this forum Bob! The helmet seems quite new to me. I don't see any patina, the edges are all sharp, there even seem to be some burrs on the air holes. The armor mark also looks very fresh. The "screw" like hinge is a no go for me. On the other hand, in one of the photos it looks as if there are hammermarks on the inside of the helmet, something you expect to see in an original piece.
I hope I don't disappoint you too much. But maybe I'm wrong, so maybe there are other forum members who want to shed some light on it. |
29th November 2023, 11:13 AM | #3 |
Member
Join Date: Nov 2023
Location: France
Posts: 13
|
Hello,
indeed a modern copy to me too. It is, however, quiet well made. No ordinary copy. |
29th November 2023, 03:10 PM | #4 |
Member
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Black Forest, Germany
Posts: 1,207
|
For your info: At the time when the originals of your helmet came up the Crusades had already been over for about 300 years.
|
29th November 2023, 03:14 PM | #5 |
(deceased)
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Portugal
Posts: 9,694
|
Be gentle, guys !
|
29th November 2023, 03:58 PM | #6 |
Member
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 252
|
Here for comparison is similar helmet made by Nigel Carren who specialises in historically accurate reproduction armour.
|
29th November 2023, 08:29 PM | #7 | ||
Member
Join Date: Sep 2022
Posts: 6
|
Quote:
Quote:
First, thank you for your help. This is my wife's inherited collection and I am by no means an expert in any of it. So, this being said, I really appreciate any information that can be provided. I thought this was a copy, just don't want to try to sell it without knowing anything. To this end, can I just ask why they would have stamped it with the anvil and three hearts? Is this a maker's mark? I am also attaching photos of another helmet I have, this one, I have seen the exact copy of in the Diego Velazquez Museum in Santiagode, Cuba and apparentely has ties to Christopher Columbus's son. Again, in my research, I have not come across a similar one, however, the exact helmet was featured in a magazine from The Museum of Historical Arms, catalog no 23, January 1, 1965. Can anyone add anything else to this? I'm not sure what to do with this particular piece, any advice? |
||
30th November 2023, 08:49 AM | #8 |
Member
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 154
|
Here's one. It says "Victorian copy" but I don't believe the copies are from the Victorian era. Fairly new in my opinion.
https://historical.ha.com/itm/antiqu...a/6076-50990.s |
30th November 2023, 09:06 AM | #9 | |
Member
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: Germany
Posts: 68
|
Quote:
Hey Bob if you want to sell the helmet. I'm interested. . Last edited by fernando; 30th November 2023 at 12:11 PM. Reason: Please do not quote entire previous posts, just relevant small sections when necessary. |
|
30th November 2023, 10:02 AM | #10 |
Member
Join Date: Nov 2023
Location: France
Posts: 13
|
Also my opinion, a middle to late 20 th century copy.
Clearly casted, not hammerd. But they went thru a lot of efforts for the joints, the nuts and rivets do look nice. |
30th November 2023, 01:09 PM | #11 | |
Member
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 252
|
Quote:
Last edited by Raf; 30th November 2023 at 02:13 PM. Reason: typos and clarity |
|
Tags |
crusader's helmet |
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
Display Modes | |
|
|