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Dear friends,
The last time I posted on here with help on a Keris, I recieved many helpful pieces of information and advice. Thank you for that. Today I won a eBay auction for another Keris, and I'd love to hear your thoughts on it regarding age and regional style. Personally to me, nothing really sticks out except for the complex Dapur. I have yet to see one that is as "Extra" as this one is. Again, many thanks for your thoughts and time... Max |
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I wonder if this is a modified blade. The work on the sorsoran is of extremely poor quality .
I have no idea of what dapur this may be called. ![]() But. The mendak looks old and the wood of the ukiran seems to show very nice figuring in the grain. |
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I don't know about kerises, but the two cuts were made at a later time by mechanical means (most likely by sawing or grinding).
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The wrongko could probably use a gentle cleaning, it looks dingy in your photos.
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Oh, i have no doubt this keris was modified, and not with any particular skill either. I am sorry to say that this was most probably done to make a low grade keris more interesting for sale in the marketplace. You can find this as a legitimate dhapur which i believe might be called dhapur trisulo, but this would not be a good example of that.
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Dear all,
Seems like you might be right. I don't have it in my hands yet, but it's unfortunate to hear that. I am really confused as to why someone would ruin a perfectly good piece. You win some you lose some, i guess.... |
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Original Dhapur (before being modified) might be Dhapur Mayat. |
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Yes, altered, what we call "keris robahan".
Originally this was a pretty reasonable village level keris, then somebody took to it with an axe --- well, maybe not an axe, but a file or hacksaw or something. Pity. Ive seen this alteration done to better quality keris, and done skillfully, and they don't look too bad, but this alteration has been roughly done. I do not know this form, nor anything like it as a legitimate dhapur, but Dhapur Sategal sort of comes close. David, I've never heard of Dhapur Trisulo for a keris, where did you pick up the name? All the dress is FAQ, untidy, but it would restore well. |
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I would just say that this is a gayaman kris from Yogyakarta, what a shame to have mistreated the blade this way, the culprit shoud be executed!
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Isn't the handle on backwards?
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Thanks David.
Yeah, that looks like it comes from Pak Djeno's dhapur sheet:- http://www.kerisattosanaji.com/DHAPU...NGTODJENO.html I regret I cannot make a favourable remark here, so I'll say nothing. |
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David, from what I have seen of this form of keris it is something that started to appear during the 1960's in Jogja.
"1960's" is a guess, I've never seen one that I could definitely place pre-WWII. Jogja is not a guess. |
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