The aesthetic beauty of a patterned blade

[RSWORD]

Originally Posted by benny.lee

Chinese saber blade with twistcore AND a horse tooth hamon


Interested in this.
Are there any more pictures?

Yes. I posted a separate thread on this sword some time back. You can use the search function to look for threads started by me or with the keyword horsetooth.

[benny.lee]

I've come to post a picture of two Chinese swords.
In China, their name is “马牙璇焊”

[estcrh]

Originally Posted by RSWORD

Yes. I posted a separate thread on this sword some time back. You can use the search function to look for threads started by me or with the keyword horsetooth.

Actually the key word is "horse tooth"

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=20019

[estcrh]

Originally Posted by benny.lee

Chinese saber blade with twistcore AND a horse tooth hamon


Interested in this.
Are there any more pictures?

Here is a Chinese sword with a similar pattern from an old post.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ht=horse+tooth


Now this is something I have not heard about before.

Originally Posted by Philip

There is no question that this saber is "the real McCoy" and is definitely not a modern repro.

However, a reader expressed doubts that this technique is used at present, and this post addresses this point only.

Yes, the "machi" (horse tooth) has been made recently by some Japanese smiths, following the tradition of the Gassan (moon mountain) sword school, which was said to have been founded centuries ago by an immigrant smith from China. Also, a contemporary swordsmith named Vincent Evans here in the US has made several Chinese style blades with this same equine dentition.

The Japanese tanto I posted is from the Gassan school, so supposedly there is a connection between the Chinese and Japanese Gassan school which might explain the Gassan wave like pattern , very interesting. Anyone see a similarity in the Chinese and Japanese pattern?

[benny.lee]

Originally Posted by estcrh

Here is a Chinese sword with a similar pattern from an old post.

Now this is something I have not heard about before.



The Japanese tanto I posted is from the Gassan school, so supposedly there is a connection between the Chinese and Japanese Gassan school which might explain the Gassan wave like pattern , very interesting. Anyone see a similarity in the Chinese and Japanese pattern?

月山贞一 绫杉肌

[Roland_M]

Originally Posted by estcrh

Anyone see a similarity in the Chinese and Japanese pattern?

Yes I do.
I would say, that the forging technique is pretty similar but the japanese Tanto has much more layers.

Interesting link to a recently made Ayasugi tanto:
http://www.themysteryworld.com/2011/...de-out-of.html


Roland

[estcrh]

Originally Posted by Roland_M

Yes I do.
I would say, that the forging technique is pretty similar but the japanese Tanto has much more layers.

Interesting link to a recently made Ayasugi tanto:
http://www.themysteryworld.com/2011/...de-out-of.html


Roland

Roland, how did you find that link, simply amazing, I cant believe the amount of work that went into making the steel, the whole process from start to finished blade is really shown here. The video shows that the Japanese physically manipulated the steel billet by cutting into it in order the get the Ayasugi pattern, this is very similar to how some wootz steel patterns were made, I have to assume that the Chinese did something similar when making the twistcore type pattern that is being discussed.



Here is a very good link from Marcus Sesko showing some different Japanese patterns (hada), Marcus has a lot of very informative short essays on many Japanese sword related topics on his site.
https://markussesko.com/2015/05/13/k...gane-jihada-2/

[RSWORD]

Originally Posted by benny.lee

I've come to post a picture of two Chinese swords.
In China, their name is “马牙璇焊”

Lovely examples! Thank you for sharing.

[estcrh]

Originally Posted by benny.lee

I've come to post a picture of two Chinese swords.
In China, their name is “马牙璇焊”

Bennie when I search using 马牙璇焊 there are no pictures of swords, is there another word?

[benny.lee]

Originally Posted by RSWORD

Lovely examples! Thank you for sharing.

There are some examples
Are all Chinese weapons

[benny.lee]

Originally Posted by estcrh

Benniem when I search using 马牙璇焊 there are no pictures of swords, is there another word?

You can try Chinese image search engine

http://image.baidu.com/

马牙钢 马齿钢

[CharlesS]

What a great thread...and what great eye candy!!

[Sajen]

Two of my blades, at first a Sumbawa short sword or golok.

[Sajen]

And a Lombok pedang blade.

[RSWORD]

Originally Posted by Sajen

And a Lombok pedang blade.

Both a superb examples of patterned Damascus steel. Thanks for sharing.

[Jens Nordlunde]

It has some times been discussed, if the chevron blades were made of pattern welded steel and of mono steel or not.
They were made of pattern welded steel and mono steel!

[estcrh]

Originally Posted by Jens Nordlunde

It has some times been discussed, if the chevron blades were made of pattern welded steel and of mono steel or not.
They were made of pattern welded steel and mono steel!

Amazing workmanship!!

[dennee]

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