Pamor

[Gavin Nugent]

Question;

Is there a specific name within the Keris world for blades that have distinct differing pamors on each blade face?

With thanks

Gavin

[Rick]

Dwi Warna, Gavin IIRC .
If I'm not someone will be along to correct the error soon .

[Gavin Nugent]

Thanks Rick,

I ran it through the translator to get an understanding of the literal translation;

Dwi was not recognised but Warna is colour so if I was to hazard a guess this would be double colour?

Could this term then be used on a blade that also shows two pamor on the one face of the blade?

With thanks

Gavin

[Rick]

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/search...earchid=519555

[Gavin Nugent]

Originally Posted by Rick

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/search...earchid=519555

Some helpful reading, thank you.

Gavin

[Rick]

I thought it the best way for me to help you, Gav .

[A. G. Maisey]

in this context of pamor, 'warna' means pamor.

'dwi' = two

'tri' = three

'panca' = five.

thus dwi warna = two pamors, tri warna = three pamors, panca warna = five pamors

[Gavin Nugent]

Hi Alan,

Am I correct in the application of these words being that it can refer to both a differing pamor to each face and also differing pamors to one face or is there more specific terms when drilling down this much.

With thanks

Gavin

[A. G. Maisey]

no gavin, these terms only refer to differing pamors that are the same on each blade face, when you have a different pamor on each blade face it is called pamor tangkis and is considered to be a protective device against black magic.

[Gavin Nugent]

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

no gavin, these terms only refer to differing pamors that are the same on each blade face, when you have a different pamor on each blade face it is called pamor tangkis and is considered to be a protective device against black magic.

Thank you Alan.

[Sajen]

Keris tangkis example.

[Gustav]

On Lombok different Pamor on each blade side is called Pamor Seliwah, according to Ir. H. Lalu Djelenga.

[Gavin Nugent]

Originally Posted by Gustav

On Lombok different Pamor on each blade side is called Pamor Seliwah, according to Ir. H. Lalu Djelenga.

Thank you Gustav.

I am wondering about the name in other keris cultures too, Malaysia, Southern Thailand, Sumatra, Bali and the many others...Would Bali fall under the Java name perhaps?

Gavin

[Sajen]

[QUOTE=Gavin Nugent]...Would Bali fall under the Java name perhaps?/QUOTE]

I doubt.

[David]

Originally Posted by Gustav

On Lombok different Pamor on each blade side is called Pamor Seliwah, according to Ir. H. Lalu Djelenga.

i am resurrecting this old thread because i just encountered this name Pamor Seliwah regarding such pamor in Lombok in another place so this can confirm that name to a certain extent, though it is quite possible this other source got this info from Ir. H. Lalu Djelenga to begin with. I believe in Jawa this would also be referred to as keris tangkis.
Here is my humble example.