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Old 12th June 2005, 03:40 PM   #1
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bought this 3 years ago but lost info about this keris but can remember that it`s a javanese origin i think.Any info or feedback appreiciate.......
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Old 17th June 2005, 09:53 PM   #2
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I think so, that your keris is Javanese origin. The scabbard like a very old style from East Java. Discontinued product for now. This keris seems like from Pajang period (about 16-17th century).
You can comparing the characteristic with this one : http://kerisbudi.fotopic.net/c580201.html

Congratulation that you bought an old Javanese keris !!

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Old 19th June 2005, 03:56 PM   #3
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I think so, that your keris is Javanese origin. The scabbard like a very old style from East Java. Discontinued product for now. This keris seems like from Pajang period (about 16-17th century).
You can comparing the characteristic with this one : http://kerisbudi.fotopic.net/c580201.html

Congratulation that you bought an old Javanese keris !!

Regards,
Manshur Hidayat
Hello Man,

thanks for your info as i`m lost with this kris as this is my first and i know nothing until recently that i found about this forum and get to learn more about the kris world.anyway will appreciate more feedbacks form others who has any to share,

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Old 5th July 2005, 01:50 PM   #4
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Keris Jawa, luk 9.
Ukiran : wanda Surakarta.
Wrangka : Ladrang Branggah Persisiran.

Picture of the wood is too blur to determine wood/type of the warangka.

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Old 6th July 2005, 07:44 AM   #5
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Can you pls help identify the dapur for this keris? Is it a sempana as in your website?

Discontinued model? Very interesting...
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Old 6th July 2005, 03:43 PM   #6
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Can you pls help identify the dapur for this keris? Is it a sempana as in your website?
Discontinued model? Very interesting...
Ass.Kum pak Rachman,

Yes you right. The dapur of this keris is Sempana;
(http://keris.fotopic.net/c584030.html)
(http://keris.fotopic.net/c491687.html)

Often the keris from Palembang and Pajajaran (not Pajang as I said before) can make me confused. Keris from Pajajaran and Palembang has same characteristic (Jawa = Pasikutan). Perhaps it can be happen because the places of Pajajaran Kingdom is near with Palembang (just separated with Sunda Straits), so that the keris from those places looks same.
But, the blade of Palembang keris are stronger and thicker (Jawa = Ngelimpa) than Pajajaran keris.

About the wrangka, I shaw the old wrangka with no pendok like this near with East Java style. But, sometimes we found it in Palembang keris. But if the Palembang style, each tip of wrangka bender that Javanese style. So that why I said this wrangka is old (antique) east Java style.

I do not know about the WANDA of this wrangka as Alam Shah wrote
WANDA is mean the specific carving style (not just style). If I'm not forget, the Wrangka Surakarta style has 8-9 Wanda and the Jogjakarta style has 8 Wanda like Ngabehan, Bancihan, Pakualaman, Mangkubumen, etc....

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Manshur Hidayat.

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