Translation help, please

Spunjer · 23rd August 2008, 12:49 PM

this was Datu Uto's flag, a Maguindanaon datu. one of the last powerful datus to resist against the spaniards.
here he is pictured sitting next to the future president taft.

i was wondering is someone can help me translate the writings on this flag

btw, as i was inspecting this flag, i noticed these stains.

here's the close up of how the lettering was produced:

thanks in advance!

Flavio · 23rd August 2008, 01:08 PM

I can't help with traslation, but I can say that this is REALLY FASCINATING!!!!

Spunjer · 23rd August 2008, 02:04 PM

yes indeedy, flavio. at first i thought it was a small flag. when it was laid out in front of me, i was surprise to see it was about 5ft by 10 ft or so.

Flavio · 23rd August 2008, 03:14 PM

Do you think that the stains can be blood.....?

Spunjer · 24th August 2008, 02:31 AM

it kinda looks it, but then again, it could just be grease. i guess unless it's subjected to a CSI type test, we may never know.

Rick · 24th August 2008, 03:43 AM

Try a bit of hydrogen peroxide on an area; if the stain disappears it may well be blood .

Flavio · 26th August 2008, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunjer

it kinda looks it, but then again, it could just be grease. i guess unless it's subjected to a CSI type test, we may never know.

Spunjer, if the flag belongs to a museum I think they can ask a collaboration with police for a CSI analysis to see if the stains are blood... Here in italy sometimes the museums ask the police for some particular analiysis an they made them for free... it's a collaboration between institutions. Even if, IMHO, to discover if the stains are blood does not add nothing to the story of the flag

Regards
FLavio

23rd August 2008, 12:49 PM	#1
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	Translation help, please this was Datu Uto's flag, a Maguindanaon datu. one of the last powerful datus to resist against the spaniards. here he is pictured sitting next to the future president taft. i was wondering is someone can help me translate the writings on this flag btw, as i was inspecting this flag, i noticed these stains. here's the close up of how the lettering was produced: thanks in advance!

23rd August 2008, 01:08 PM	#2
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	I can't help with traslation, but I can say that this is REALLY FASCINATING!!!!

23rd August 2008, 02:04 PM	#3
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	yes indeedy, flavio. at first i thought it was a small flag. when it was laid out in front of me, i was surprise to see it was about 5ft by 10 ft or so.

23rd August 2008, 03:14 PM	#4
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Do you think that the stains can be blood.....?

24th August 2008, 02:31 AM	#5
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	it kinda looks it, but then again, it could just be grease. i guess unless it's subjected to a CSI type test, we may never know.

24th August 2008, 03:43 AM	#6
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	Try a bit of hydrogen peroxide on an area; if the stain disappears it may well be blood .