Puzzling greneng works

Alam Shah · 19th July 2007, 02:37 AM

The greneng, as we know it is on the left side of the tapering base of the keris.
Could anyone give pointers on what this represents?

David · 19th July 2007, 03:22 AM

That is cool and unusual Shahrial. Any chance we could see the whole blade?

A. G. Maisey · 19th July 2007, 03:35 AM

Looks to me like somebody got carried away by his muse.

Newsteel · 19th July 2007, 03:37 AM

Yup, the whole blade please. That greneng is uncommon. But often we found that on sundang keris meant for high status person.

Alam Shah · 19th July 2007, 04:30 AM

Here's the full blade. You can also see it here...
http://alamshah.fotopic.net/c1047834.html

David · 19th July 2007, 05:03 PM

Thanks Shahrial. I like the overall look of this blade. The gandik area seems a bit unusal as well. Very interesting keris.

kai · 20th July 2007, 12:21 AM

Hello Sharial,

I'm really looking forward to that day when a brother of this blade will show up or we get some other insights on it's provenance! Until then, it is a real puzzler...

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=2925

Regards,
Kai

Alam Shah · 20th July 2007, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kai

Hello Sharial,

I'm really looking forward to that day when a brother of this blade will show up or we get some other insights on it's provenance! Until then, it is a real puzzler...

Yeah... I was hoping that some of us, ... with new acquired knowledge and seen, reviewed more kerises... etc, might get additional info.

I started fresh... to let our new members comment accordingly... some might have seen something similar...etc.

Marcokeris · 3rd July 2008, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alam Shah

The greneng, as we know it is on the left side of the tapering base of the keris.
Could anyone give pointers on what this represents?

I dont know what represents but.... Alam it is, IMO, a beautiful keris

Alam Shah · 4th July 2008, 02:11 AM

Thanks Marco.

Rick, it does looks like okir...
Thanks Kai for the piece.

... still no cigars...

Rick · 4th July 2008, 02:49 AM

No cigars yes, but do you suppose this in any way reinforces the link between Sumatra and the southern Philippines ?

Do we see any non martial applications of this type of style in any Sumatran art ?

RobT · 4th July 2008, 03:57 AM

Hi All,
It's a really nice looking keris but what strikes me as odd is that the tang appears to be off center to the axis of the thrust. Am I seeing something that isn't there?
Sincerely,
RobT

Alam Shah · 4th July 2008, 04:35 AM

Hi RobT, sharp observation.

See more pics here...
http://alamshah.fotopic.net/c1047834.html

19th July 2007, 02:37 AM	#1
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Puzzling greneng works The greneng, as we know it is on the left side of the tapering base of the keris. Could anyone give pointers on what this represents? Attached Images

19th July 2007, 04:30 AM	#5
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	The blade Here's the full blade. You can also see it here... http://alamshah.fotopic.net/c1047834.html Attached Images

4th July 2008, 03:57 AM	#12
RobT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 548	Odd tang placement Hi All, It's a really nice looking keris but what strikes me as odd is that the tang appears to be off center to the axis of the thrust. Am I seeing something that isn't there? Sincerely, RobT

19th July 2007, 03:22 AM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	That is cool and unusual Shahrial. Any chance we could see the whole blade?

19th July 2007, 03:35 AM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,015	Looks to me like somebody got carried away by his muse.

19th July 2007, 03:37 AM	#4
Newsteel Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 132	Yup, the whole blade please. That greneng is uncommon. But often we found that on sundang keris meant for high status person.

19th July 2007, 05:03 PM	#6
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	Thanks Shahrial. I like the overall look of this blade. The gandik area seems a bit unusal as well. Very interesting keris.

20th July 2007, 12:21 AM	#7
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Hello Sharial, I'm really looking forward to that day when a brother of this blade will show up or we get some other insights on it's provenance! Until then, it is a real puzzler... http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=2925 Regards, Kai

4th July 2008, 02:11 AM	#10
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Thanks Marco. Rick, it does looks like okir... Thanks Kai for the piece. ... still no cigars...

4th July 2008, 02:49 AM	#11
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	No cigars yes, but do you suppose this in any way reinforces the link between Sumatra and the southern Philippines ? Do we see any non martial applications of this type of style in any Sumatran art ?

4th July 2008, 04:35 AM	#13
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Hi RobT, sharp observation. See more pics here... http://alamshah.fotopic.net/c1047834.html