Clan totem?

Tim Simmons · 24th February 2005, 04:19 PM

Can anyone tell me more about this carved animal on the scabbard of this large heavy PI knife.As far as I can see it could be a salamander,monitor lizard or a crocodile.Thanks Tim.

Jens Nordlunde · 24th February 2005, 05:55 PM

Frome where in Africa is it?
Where on the scabbard is the animal?
Do you know how old it is?

Jens

Tim Simmons · 24th February 2005, 06:19 PM

Hello Jens this piece is from one of the Philippine Islands.I do believe there are members of this forum that know rather a lot about these things.Tim

Jens Nordlunde · 24th February 2005, 07:39 PM

Yes, as you can see from my post - I am more than lost, but it is an interesting thing, and I would not be surprised if it is a tribal mark.

Regards

Jens

tom hyle · 25th February 2005, 02:23 AM

This is from Luzon. From the highland/northern "Igorot" people. I forget what it is called. The handle is a hollow socket, and supposedly they are used as spears in hunting, as well as as dagger/knives. There is another type with the same handle but an SE angled "bolo" blade, too. Recycled hoof rasps are a common material for these. Yours doesn't look that way though.

John · 25th February 2005, 03:20 AM

The carved animal is a lizard. I see these creatures everyday at home on ceilings and walls as they look for mosquitos to feed on. The Malays call it "cicak".

Andrew · 25th February 2005, 05:55 AM

It also looks exactly like the small, flat, nocturnal gecko-like lizards that infest my area.

Tim Simmons · 25th February 2005, 08:56 PM

Thanks Bill. I like the bits about lizards.Not so keen on your view of the weapon.If you could see the whole thing close up I am sure you would ,as I do,say it is at least pre ww2.Tim

24th February 2005, 04:19 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	Clan totem? Can anyone tell me more about this carved animal on the scabbard of this large heavy PI knife.As far as I can see it could be a salamander,monitor lizard or a crocodile.Thanks Tim. Attached Images

24th February 2005, 05:55 PM	#2
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Frome where in Africa is it? Where on the scabbard is the animal? Do you know how old it is? Jens

24th February 2005, 06:19 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	Hello Jens this piece is from one of the Philippine Islands.I do believe there are members of this forum that know rather a lot about these things.Tim

24th February 2005, 07:39 PM	#4
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Yes, as you can see from my post - I am more than lost, but it is an interesting thing, and I would not be surprised if it is a tribal mark. Regards Jens

25th February 2005, 02:23 AM	#5
tom hyle Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 1,254	This is from Luzon. From the highland/northern "Igorot" people. I forget what it is called. The handle is a hollow socket, and supposedly they are used as spears in hunting, as well as as dagger/knives. There is another type with the same handle but an SE angled "bolo" blade, too. Recycled hoof rasps are a common material for these. Yours doesn't look that way though.

25th February 2005, 03:20 AM	#6
John Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Land below the wind Posts: 135	The carved animal is a lizard. I see these creatures everyday at home on ceilings and walls as they look for mosquitos to feed on. The Malays call it "cicak".

25th February 2005, 05:55 AM	#7
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	It also looks exactly like the small, flat, nocturnal gecko-like lizards that infest my area.

25th February 2005, 08:56 PM	#8
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	Thanks Bill. I like the bits about lizards.Not so keen on your view of the weapon.If you could see the whole thing close up I am sure you would ,as I do,say it is at least pre ww2.Tim