Asymmetrical Sickles knives, ngombe?

Congoblades · 21st August 2006, 12:01 PM

There are a lot of knives with this shapes of different tribes. It's not very clear for me. On this I see those triangular decoration, is this ngombe?
Mostly I see different handles on these. Is it typical for a certain tribe or area?

Congoblades · 21st August 2006, 12:03 PM

Same handle as the one above, same tribe??

Mapico1 · 21st August 2006, 12:49 PM

Hi,the first one is Mbudja,the second Bati.They have a simular handle because they are 2 neighbouring tribes.See the map from "tribal arms monographs" volume 1 by Elsen on page 22-23.
Danny

Congoblades · 21st August 2006, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mapico1

Hi,the first one is Mbudja,the second Bati.They have a simular handle because they are 2 neighbouring tribes.See the map from "tribal arms monographs" volume 1 by Elsen on page 22-23.
Danny

Thanks Danny, volume 1 is one of the (many) books I am still missing

not available anymore in Tervuren.
Guy

Rather · 21st August 2006, 01:43 PM

Hi Congoblades,

in case of interest, the books are available antiquatian, for instance:
http://cgi.zvab.com/SESSz74603245511...=&days=&rpp=10

Mapico1 · 21st August 2006, 01:53 PM

Here already a pre-taste....

Tim Simmons · 22nd August 2006, 06:58 AM

Thanks for the pictures. I was prompted to look again with an eye glass and it appears not to be a spike folded back on its self. It is a punched mark, part of the decoration, very similar to the first example shown. At a distance to the naked eye it does look like a piece folded back. The other examples do not have this mark. Quite interesting, love the copper version, very special. Thanks.

katana · 22nd August 2006, 08:10 PM

You guys from Belgium really do get some fantastic examples of weapons from the Congo........obviously I know why (historically )......but sometimes I wish Queen Victoria had pushed the 'British Empire' further south (in Africa)... then it may have included the Congo and beyond ......

I'm not really jealous.....

21st August 2006, 12:01 PM	#1
Congoblades Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 171	Asymmetrical Sickles knives, ngombe? There are a lot of knives with this shapes of different tribes. It's not very clear for me. On this I see those triangular decoration, is this ngombe? Mostly I see different handles on these. Is it typical for a certain tribe or area? Attached Images

21st August 2006, 12:03 PM	#2
Congoblades Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 171	Same handle as the one above, same tribe?? Attached Images

21st August 2006, 12:49 PM	#3
Mapico1 Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 86	2 neighbours with simular handles Hi,the first one is Mbudja,the second Bati.They have a simular handle because they are 2 neighbouring tribes.See the map from "tribal arms monographs" volume 1 by Elsen on page 22-23. Danny

21st August 2006, 01:53 PM	#6
Mapico1 Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 86	Here already a pre-taste.... Attached Images

21st August 2006, 01:43 PM	#5
Rather Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hamburg, Germany Posts: 72	Hi Congoblades, in case of interest, the books are available antiquatian, for instance: http://cgi.zvab.com/SESSz74603245511...=&days=&rpp=10

22nd August 2006, 06:58 AM	#7
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,842	Thanks for the pictures. I was prompted to look again with an eye glass and it appears not to be a spike folded back on its self. It is a punched mark, part of the decoration, very similar to the first example shown. At a distance to the naked eye it does look like a piece folded back. The other examples do not have this mark. Quite interesting, love the copper version, very special. Thanks.

22nd August 2006, 08:10 PM	#8
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	You guys from Belgium really do get some fantastic examples of weapons from the Congo........obviously I know why (historically )......but sometimes I wish Queen Victoria had pushed the 'British Empire' further south (in Africa)... then it may have included the Congo and beyond ...... I'm not really jealous.....