Turkish/ greek dagger or North african genoui ?

[francantolin]

Hello dear members,

I found today at flea market this nice item for few buckets,
it was just for decoration, the blade is not a good one
but the scabbard and the hilt are really nice and ( for me )
and are well made, maybe not too recent.

The scabbard seems to be silvered brass
the hilt, maybe silver parts on horn or really hard wood.

First I thought it was a genoui style Moroccan dagger especially for the hilt shape
but I saw months ago in an auction house a turkish dagger with the same tip end on the scabbard, it was said to be turkish or ottoman greek origin ( sadly no picture)

Kubur ??

[Kubur]

Hi my friend,

You are right it's Moroccan and a sbula.
A sbula with botox and extra guard and quillons.
Not very old I'm afraid, but well done.
Please show us the photos of the auction that you mentionned,
I'm sure that it is a Tunisian dagger and notTurkish nor Greek.
For more examples look here
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=20240
But yours is Moroccan.

[francantolin]

Hello,
thank you for you comment !!

I can't find the picture but looked like these one,
( just the scabbard part, the hilt looked more like a kindjal so... )

one, an Alhambra, Al Andalus period and recent spanish model in a Al-Andalus mauresque style

So ''definitely'' ? ... from Morocco

[francantolin]

Maybe a stamp on the scabbard: 20 or OZ ?

Really difficult to make a good picture of it...

[Kubur]

Originally Posted by francantolin

Hello,
thank you for you comment !!

I can't find the picture but looked like these one,
( just the scabbard part, the hilt looked more like a kindjal so... )

one, an Alhambra, Al Andalus period and recent spanish model in a Al-Andalus mauresque style

So ''definitely'' ? ... from Morocco

Of course, the daggers that you show now are Spanish Toledo 19th c. in neo Nasrid style.
The first that you posted is a Moroccan sbula, very different.
But in the past you posted a koummiya with a Toledo blade...