Need Help

Ahmad · 14th August 2020, 02:55 AM

Dear Friends ,

I need help to identify this weapon , the origin and other info about it .

Thanks a lot

Ahmad

Sajen · 14th August 2020, 04:12 PM

Hello Ahmad,

Please upload your pictures direct to this site, see here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=13631

PS: Welcome to the forum!

M ELEY · 15th August 2020, 06:07 AM

Hello Ahmad. Judging from the files you originally uploaded, I am of the opinion that your weapon is an espada of Spanish colonial manufacture. The flat tang with side slats and rivets are classical features for these type pieces, as is the "S" shaped guard. What remains of the slat wood grips also looks like the desert wood (forgive me, I'm not sure if Mesquite, etc) often found on such pieces. Even the copper rivets used to secure the grips classic for espada (both ancha swords and Mexican bowie-type knives such as yours). This example would probably date ca. 1800-60's, pre- and post-Revolution period. A very interesting piece!

Ahmad · 15th August 2020, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by M ELEY

Hello Ahmad. Judging from the files you originally uploaded, I am of the opinion that your weapon is an espada of Spanish colonial manufacture. The flat tang with side slats and rivets are classical features for these type pieces, as is the "S" shaped guard. What remains of the slat wood grips also looks like the desert wood (forgive me, I'm not sure if Mesquite, etc) often found on such pieces. Even the copper rivets used to secure the grips classic for espada (both ancha swords and Mexican bowie-type knives such as yours). This example would probably date ca. 1800-60's, pre- and post-Revolution period. A very interesting piece!

Hi M Eley ,

Thank you very much for your opnion on my stuff .
It so useful for me ..to make an answer or some explanation about it .

Cheers

Battara · 15th August 2020, 07:49 PM

Since the photos are still not uploaded per forum rules, I will have to look this thread (also to protect the site from malware).

fernando · 19th August 2020, 11:37 AM

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fernando · 20th August 2020, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Ahmad

Hi M Eley ,

Thank you very much for your opnion on my stuff .
It so useful for me ..to make an answer or some explanation about it .

Cheers

Say Ahmad; does this example belong in your collection ? What part of the world did you acquire it from ?

fernando · 20th August 2020, 11:05 AM

I would not know how to name this item but, within my ignorance, i would dare say that, the parts that make it resemble a espada ancha are infinitely less than those that don't make it look like one ... even if just their derivation. The blade is much shorter and off shape, the grip may have a similar approah but, the whole hilt complex certainly doesn't.
Let us see if Ahmad tells us where i bought it from, assuming he did it. That may help to through some light to it.

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14th August 2020, 04:12 PM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,164	Hello Ahmad, Please upload your pictures direct to this site, see here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=13631 PS: Welcome to the forum!

15th August 2020, 06:07 AM	#3
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,141	Hello Ahmad. Judging from the files you originally uploaded, I am of the opinion that your weapon is an espada of Spanish colonial manufacture. The flat tang with side slats and rivets are classical features for these type pieces, as is the "S" shaped guard. What remains of the slat wood grips also looks like the desert wood (forgive me, I'm not sure if Mesquite, etc) often found on such pieces. Even the copper rivets used to secure the grips classic for espada (both ancha swords and Mexican bowie-type knives such as yours). This example would probably date ca. 1800-60's, pre- and post-Revolution period. A very interesting piece!

15th August 2020, 07:49 PM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	Since the photos are still not uploaded per forum rules, I will have to look this thread (also to protect the site from malware).

20th August 2020, 11:05 AM	#8
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	I would not know how to name this item but, within my ignorance, i would dare say that, the parts that make it resemble a espada ancha are infinitely less than those that don't make it look like one ... even if just their derivation. The blade is much shorter and off shape, the grip may have a similar approah but, the whole hilt complex certainly doesn't. Let us see if Ahmad tells us where i bought it from, assuming he did it. That may help to through some light to it.