What happened to this Barung

kino · 11th July 2020, 06:14 PM

This Barung has been living with me for over 15 years. Fits nicely in the scabbard.
There’s a big dent on the blades right side.

What happened?

Bob A · 11th July 2020, 06:24 PM

Looks like a scarf weld from an earlier breakage. I assume this occurred well before it came into your possession. If it's recent, I have no explanation.

Ian · 11th July 2020, 07:38 PM

Very nice hilt and scabbard, and what was once a nice blade. Looks as though this one took a hit from a cannon ball. I can't think what else would cause such a large round impression and snap the blade in two.

Battara · 12th July 2020, 07:16 AM

I agree so far. Never seen a scarf weld or damage like this except for cannon shots.

Interested Party · 12th July 2020, 03:22 PM

This is a question I've been pondering lately and I think this is a good time to ask it.

How serviceable is a blade after this kind of repair? It would obviously have to be normalized, hardened, and tempered. Would a chopper like this be able to take much impact or would it just be a show piece after the repair? Was this beautiful hilt and sheath original or manufactured for the remade blade?

kino · 12th July 2020, 04:43 PM

BobA- the blade was in this condition when I acquired the Barung. I polished and etched the blades tip.

Ian and Battara- a hit from a cannon ball (shrapnel?), never entered my mind, if true, it’s amazing how it survived.

IP- Whether the furniture was original to the blade or not, it’s up to anyone’s guess. I’m assuming that it’s original.

I can’t see a reason for re-hilting and housing it in a scabbard of this type for a heavily damaged blade. I’m thinking that the blades tip wasn’t completely broken off just heavily fractured and re-welded. The scabbards upper left appendage has been restored, the difference in the color is apparent in the photo. The rattan wrapping is current as well.
Thanks for you input guys.

kronckew · 12th July 2020, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Battara

I agree so far. Never seen a scarf weld or damage like this except for cannon shots.

May also have been grapeshot.

I have a pipe-backed blade on an ww1 era Austrian sword with a distinct dimple on the blade from a bullet - and a crack in the blade all the way to the spine. the matching numbered scabbard does not have a corresponding dimple, so I'd bet the owner got a nasty shock while it was drawn, it still fits the scabbard too. Hope he survived the engagement & spent years telling the story in the local bierkellar. (I've had an offer to have it TIG welded and reground/ polished but so far have resisted.)

Battara · 12th July 2020, 08:13 PM

I also wonder if this is from the Borneo Moros based on the scabbard style and dimensions.

11th July 2020, 06:14 PM	#1
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,018	What happened to this Barung This Barung has been living with me for over 15 years. Fits nicely in the scabbard. There’s a big dent on the blades right side. What happened? Attached Images

11th July 2020, 07:38 PM	#3
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,361	Very nice hilt and scabbard, and what was once a nice blade. Looks as though this one took a hit from a cannon ball. I can't think what else would cause such a large round impression and snap the blade in two. Last edited by Ian; 12th July 2020 at 03:26 AM. Reason: Spelling ...

11th July 2020, 06:24 PM	#2
Bob A Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 435	Looks like a scarf weld from an earlier breakage. I assume this occurred well before it came into your possession. If it's recent, I have no explanation.

12th July 2020, 07:16 AM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	I agree so far. Never seen a scarf weld or damage like this except for cannon shots.

12th July 2020, 03:22 PM	#5
Interested Party Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Eastern Sierra Posts: 492	This is a question I've been pondering lately and I think this is a good time to ask it. How serviceable is a blade after this kind of repair? It would obviously have to be normalized, hardened, and tempered. Would a chopper like this be able to take much impact or would it just be a show piece after the repair? Was this beautiful hilt and sheath original or manufactured for the remade blade?

12th July 2020, 04:43 PM	#6
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,018	BobA- the blade was in this condition when I acquired the Barung. I polished and etched the blades tip. Ian and Battara- a hit from a cannon ball (shrapnel?), never entered my mind, if true, it’s amazing how it survived. IP- Whether the furniture was original to the blade or not, it’s up to anyone’s guess. I’m assuming that it’s original. I can’t see a reason for re-hilting and housing it in a scabbard of this type for a heavily damaged blade. I’m thinking that the blades tip wasn’t completely broken off just heavily fractured and re-welded. The scabbards upper left appendage has been restored, the difference in the color is apparent in the photo. The rattan wrapping is current as well. Thanks for you input guys.

12th July 2020, 08:13 PM	#8
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	I also wonder if this is from the Borneo Moros based on the scabbard style and dimensions.