identification request (2nd)

gp · 23rd May 2020, 09:03 PM

Can any one enlighten me on the origin and age of this one ?

total length: 39 cm with scabbard - 32 cm without
length blade: 18,2 cm
length bone handle: 13, 5 cm - 2 cm small part and 3,5 cm wider part
lenght scabbard : 25 cm ( wood covered by black leather)
3 rivest and 2 coloured small circular ornaments
(green and blue approx. 0,35 cm) and one smaller missing piece / stone approx. 0,2cm

gp · 23rd May 2020, 09:04 PM

some more pics. remarkable is the fact that the scabbard is 5 cm longer then the blade

motan · 24th May 2020, 10:38 AM

Hi,
Another one of many primitive and obscure daggers from the middle east. Very hard for me to say where it is from. It shows influences of Persian, Caucasian and Kurdish daggers, but it is a primitive, village made piece, probably from the 19th c. Without any real evidence, I would place its origins somewhere near the border of Northern Iraq and Turkey, including North East Syria, and North West Iran.
Unfortunately, the maker's marks on the blade have been worn out beyond recognition, but it appears to have been a good quality blade. This reminds me of another type of simple daggers that have a good quality, stamped blade - see pic., but otherwise, no real resemblance.

23rd May 2020, 09:03 PM	#1
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 717	identification request (2nd) Can any one enlighten me on the origin and age of this one ? total length: 39 cm with scabbard - 32 cm without length blade: 18,2 cm length bone handle: 13, 5 cm - 2 cm small part and 3,5 cm wider part lenght scabbard : 25 cm ( wood covered by black leather) 3 rivest and 2 coloured small circular ornaments (green and blue approx. 0,35 cm) and one smaller missing piece / stone approx. 0,2cm Attached Images Last edited by gp; 23rd May 2020 at 09:31 PM.

23rd May 2020, 09:04 PM	#2
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 717	some more pics. remarkable is the fact that the scabbard is 5 cm longer then the blade Attached Images Last edited by gp; 23rd May 2020 at 09:23 PM.

24th May 2020, 10:38 AM	#3
motan Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Jerusalem Posts: 274	Hi, Another one of many primitive and obscure daggers from the middle east. Very hard for me to say where it is from. It shows influences of Persian, Caucasian and Kurdish daggers, but it is a primitive, village made piece, probably from the 19th c. Without any real evidence, I would place its origins somewhere near the border of Northern Iraq and Turkey, including North East Syria, and North West Iran. Unfortunately, the maker's marks on the blade have been worn out beyond recognition, but it appears to have been a good quality blade. This reminds me of another type of simple daggers that have a good quality, stamped blade - see pic., but otherwise, no real resemblance. Attached Images