French hunting hanger sword, Hussar/Pandour style?

kronckew · 24th February 2019, 08:11 PM

Acquired this hunting hanger yesterday, appears to be a French hunting sword of the Hussar/Pandour style of the 18c. The blade is lightly pitted all over but appears to have once had elaborate decoration, i can make out a pair of large crescent moon faces with prominent noses on one side, possible 6-point stars, and a circular feature on the other side. The blade is 60cm. long, 4 cm. wide at guard, 8mm thick there. The spine is sharpened for 17 cm. then flat to guard inscribed with three parallel lines in the flat spine. The right side has the two moon faces, the left side has a circular feature with what may be a sword diagonally under it as well as a flag. All rather indistinct. 12cm. bone grip in great shape, peened over a brass keeper, missing one brass oval stud. 'Oriental' style brass guard with floral engraving.

Any comments appreciated, Thanks in advance for any additional info. I recall seeing similar ones here with clearer and very similar inscriptions...

fernando · 24th February 2019, 09:17 PM

C'mon Wayne, you sure can do better with picturing the blade details. Chose a different light, or and a different angle, i don't know ... just try

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kronckew · 24th February 2019, 09:35 PM

Been a bit foggy here, I'll try when it gets a bit sunny.

I'll see if some light rust removal helps...

fernando · 24th February 2019, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kronckew

... Been a bit foggy here ...

Foggy ... in Britain ?

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M ELEY · 25th February 2019, 02:37 AM

Nice hanger, Wayne. If you use the contrast feature on your Photo Gallery pic, you can often bring out the details better. Not a lot t add other than saying the sun and moon symbols were common on blades from this period, cannibalistic in nature and not necessarily exclusive to the pandour styles.

ariel · 25th February 2019, 04:44 AM

I am sure you meant Kabbalistic, not cannibalistic, but your computer decided differently:-)
I have to fight with my iPad 24/7....So far I am usually winning, but the bugger gives me good fight. I am afraid that AI will prevail at the end.

kronckew · 28th February 2019, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by M ELEY

Nice hanger, Wayne. If you use the contrast feature on your Photo Gallery pic, you can often bring out the details better.... the sun and moon symbols were common on blades from this period, cannibalistic in nature and not necessarily exclusive to the pandour styles.

The photos above have already been 'enhanced'. I took an HDR photo of one moon and tweaked it with HDR software, then ran it thru an intelligent forensic enhancement filter to show what it originally may have looked like...

(OK, the Intelligent enhancement filter was me doing a google search and pinching an image)

24th February 2019, 08:11 PM	#1
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,184	French hunting hanger sword, Hussar/Pandour style? Acquired this hunting hanger yesterday, appears to be a French hunting sword of the Hussar/Pandour style of the 18c. The blade is lightly pitted all over but appears to have once had elaborate decoration, i can make out a pair of large crescent moon faces with prominent noses on one side, possible 6-point stars, and a circular feature on the other side. The blade is 60cm. long, 4 cm. wide at guard, 8mm thick there. The spine is sharpened for 17 cm. then flat to guard inscribed with three parallel lines in the flat spine. The right side has the two moon faces, the left side has a circular feature with what may be a sword diagonally under it as well as a flag. All rather indistinct. 12cm. bone grip in great shape, peened over a brass keeper, missing one brass oval stud. 'Oriental' style brass guard with floral engraving. Any comments appreciated, Thanks in advance for any additional info. I recall seeing similar ones here with clearer and very similar inscriptions... Attached Images Last edited by kronckew; 24th February 2019 at 08:44 PM.

25th February 2019, 04:44 AM	#6
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	I am sure you meant Kabbalistic, not cannibalistic, but your computer decided differently:-) I have to fight with my iPad 24/7....So far I am usually winning, but the bugger gives me good fight. I am afraid that AI will prevail at the end. Last edited by ariel; 25th February 2019 at 05:59 AM.

24th February 2019, 09:17 PM	#2
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	C'mon Wayne, you sure can do better with picturing the blade details. Chose a different light, or and a different angle, i don't know ... just try .

24th February 2019, 09:35 PM	#3
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,184	Been a bit foggy here, I'll try when it gets a bit sunny. I'll see if some light rust removal helps...

25th February 2019, 02:37 AM	#5
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,097	Nice hanger, Wayne. If you use the contrast feature on your Photo Gallery pic, you can often bring out the details better. Not a lot t add other than saying the sun and moon symbols were common on blades from this period, cannibalistic in nature and not necessarily exclusive to the pandour styles.