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Until today it lasted 73 years that I convinced myself to be ready to buy my first kris. Today it arrived, I like it very much and here are the fotos to invite comments.
Total length 570mm, length of blade 370mm. corrado26 |
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I am probably one of the less knowledgeable on this forum but I think you got a typical example of a tourist/souvenir keris. Sorry! But maybe I am wrong... hopefully! ![]() |
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Hello Corrado,
I am also 73, the ideal age for collecting krisses! ![]() This is a very modern kris made in Madura. Best regards |
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While I might quibble with Jean about the ideal age for collecting keris (I believe all ages are fair game...
![]() Aside from the non-Madurese mendak and low-quality hilt, there does not seem to be a traditional part on this piece. Contemporary art. Regards, Kai |
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Thanks for the comments not too posive, but I am not disappointed because I bought it for decoration and it was really cheap.
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![]() But be careful, because if you get bitten by the "Keris Bug" you will be doomed forever and start collecting them. It's not deadly, though... ![]() |
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I'm afraid i must agree with the gang here. I try not to use the term "tourist keris" very often, but with this extravagant variation on the Madurese ladrang dress i am afraid i do not see too many cultural applications where this keris would be considered appropriate. I glad you are not to disappointed and i hope it does not dampen your interest.
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I really see no art by this piece! ![]() Regards, Detlef |
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wouldn't call it keris! Keris similar object describe it much better IMVHO! ![]() Regards, Detlef |
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I agree with you but apply the recommendation from Alan that we should encourage our beginning members, and I remember that one of my first "krisses" was similar to this one although a little less eccentric... ![]() Corrado, the attached pic shows a correct type of Madurese kris for reference. Regards |
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I don't want to deject Corrado from collecting keris but when I understand him correct he was looking for a wall decoration and he stated that he is happy with his buy. But we should say the truth and I think the truth is that this isn't a keris in the truest sense of the word. Regards, Detlef |
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Yes Detlef, I agree, it is not a keris.
But it is a good sort of a keris-like object to hang on the wall, and as has already been said, that is why Corrado bought it, apart from the fact of low price. In fairness, it is craft-work that uses the same skills that are used in making a keris:- the blade has been forged, it does have pamor, it is very extravagantly ornamented with kinatah work, the scabbard and hilt have been carved.It does bear a somewhat better than average mendak. I think this is a good start to collecting keris:- it tells Corrado what not to buy, but at the same time demonstrates the skills used in producing what he should aim to acquire. David doesn't like the term "Tourist keris" , and neither do I. In fact there never have been many keris that were made specifically to sell to tourists. The only ones I can think of were the Bali things of the '70's & '80's that had flat iron blades and "pamor batik" (patterned blades created by covering with wax, drawing a motif, and soaking in acid). This keris of Corrado's is not in any way "tourist", it is decorative craft-work, and an urban Indonesian could use it as a wall decoration, just as Corrado has done. |
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