Whale Bone Kampilan

oldschldude · 19th March 2016, 01:20 AM

Hello Everyone,
I need info for this Kampilan. Age? description? When was this handguard used? Thanks for all inputs. Oldschldude

Sajen · 19th March 2016, 03:53 PM

Very nice and great kampilan. I would guess that it is a middle until end of 19th century example. Would like to see the blade cleaned and etched. Also some better and bigger pictures. Can't remember to have seen a guard with chains attached. Maybe a Lumad influence?

Regards,
Detlef

Battara · 20th March 2016, 03:02 AM

Yes 19c. Needs some restoration and polish and etching. However, whalebone kampilans are hard to find.

Actually Detlef, occasionally Moro kampilans will have 4-in-1 chain maille as part of the hand guard. This is not Lumad but Moro. Good question though.....

I also agree that larger pictures and close ups would help tremendously when you get it.

Robert · 20th March 2016, 06:31 AM

Hello Oldschldude and welcome to the forum. I am in total agreement with what Detlef and Jose have already told you. I did though try to get a little more detail out of your photos. Not much better than the originals, but will have to do until you can post better ones after it arrives.

Best,
Robert

oldschldude · 20th March 2016, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert

Hello Oldschldude and welcome to the forum. I am in total agreement with what Detlef and Jose have already told you. I did though try to get a little more detail out of your photos. Not much better than the originals, but will have to do until you can post better ones after it arrives.

Best,
Robert

Thanks, Ill put some new ones tomorrow. Also Thanks for peoples reply

oldschldude · 21st March 2016, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by oldschldude

Thanks, Ill put some new ones tomorrow. Also Thanks for peoples reply

Hello,
Here's some new pics. Hope this help..Thanks!
P.S.
Just got a few questions. Just curious, Why dated mid to late 19th century and not an (late) 18th century sword (I wish). Is it determined by the chain mail used in the guard introduced during that time/ moro armour. Filipino whalers during that time? The wideness of mouth of crocodile on the hilt(shape of hilt)? Shape of blade?

Regards,
Oldschldude

Sajen · 20th March 2016, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Battara

Actually Detlef, occasionally Moro kampilans will have 4-in-1 chain maille as part of the hand guard. This is not Lumad but Moro. Good question though.....

Hello Jose,

like said, never seen this before. Can you show samples?

Regards,
Detlef

Battara · 22nd March 2016, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

Hello Jose,

like said, never seen this before. Can you show samples?

Regards,
Detlef

Since you asked, here are some pictures of one that was on eBay (and later owned by Rsword):

Battara · 22nd March 2016, 03:56 AM

And here is another example from the Peabody Museum here in the United States:

Sajen · 22nd March 2016, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Battara

Since you asked, here are some pictures of one that was on eBay (and later owned by Rsword):

Thank you very much Jose! Great examples!

Regards,
Detlef

19th March 2016, 01:20 AM	#1
oldschldude Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 17	Whale Bone Kampilan Hello Everyone, I need info for this Kampilan. Age? description? When was this handguard used? Thanks for all inputs. Oldschldude Attached Images

20th March 2016, 06:31 AM	#4
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Hello Oldschldude and welcome to the forum. I am in total agreement with what Detlef and Jose have already told you. I did though try to get a little more detail out of your photos. Not much better than the originals, but will have to do until you can post better ones after it arrives. Best, Robert Attached Images

22nd March 2016, 03:56 AM	#9
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,219	And here is another example from the Peabody Museum here in the United States: Attached Images

19th March 2016, 03:53 PM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,779	Very nice and great kampilan. I would guess that it is a middle until end of 19th century example. Would like to see the blade cleaned and etched. Also some better and bigger pictures. Can't remember to have seen a guard with chains attached. Maybe a Lumad influence? Regards, Detlef

20th March 2016, 03:02 AM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,219	Yes 19c. Needs some restoration and polish and etching. However, whalebone kampilans are hard to find. Actually Detlef, occasionally Moro kampilans will have 4-in-1 chain maille as part of the hand guard. This is not Lumad but Moro. Good question though..... I also agree that larger pictures and close ups would help tremendously when you get it.