Yakan or Borneo barong?

Sajen · 18th July 2015, 03:26 PM

This rather nice barong just ended by ebay, I was outbid by a well known and respected member.

Hope you will post better pictures later.

What I really want to know, is this a Yakan or a Borneo barong? There seems to be mistiness about the origin ot this sort of barongs.

CharlesS · 18th July 2015, 03:51 PM

Typically these horn ferrules are associated with the Yakan Moros of Mindanao and Basilan. Though this one seems to fit the its scabbard perfectly, it is not what I would expect a typical Yakan scabbard to look like.

see: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=yakan+barong

Barongs certainly found their way to Borneo. There is some info on that in the above thread as well.

Sajen · 18th July 2015, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlesS

Typically these horn ferrules are associated with the Yakan Moros of Mindanao and Basilan. Though this one seems to fit the its scabbard perfectly, it is not what I would expect a typical Yakan scabbard to look like.

see: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=yakan+barong

Barongs certainly found their way to Borneo. There is some info on that in the above thread as well.

Hello Charles,

thank you for comment!

Yes, I would agree but it seems that not all members are certain about this, see your own thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=Yakan

I think that the scabbard of the one in question could be a later replacement?

It was for sure a great catch, congrats for the happy winner.

Regards,
Detlef

Rafngard · 18th July 2015, 07:41 PM

I had my eye on that one as well. I'm glad it went to a forum member.

I'm curious, would there have originally been a rattan wrap on the handle as well?

Have fun,
Leif

Sajen · 18th July 2015, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rafngard

I'm curious, would there have originally been a rattan wrap on the handle as well?

Hello Rafngard,

no, there never have been a rattan wrap.

Regards,
Detlef

Battara · 19th July 2015, 05:03 AM

Rafngard, just for clarity, most of those tribes in the Sulu area use silver sleeves, but on Basilan Island, the Yakan use a horn sleeve instead. Usually both silver and horn sleeves are without woven bands on them.

Good question though........

18th July 2015, 03:26 PM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,781	Yakan or Borneo barong? This rather nice barong just ended by ebay, I was outbid by a well known and respected member. Hope you will post better pictures later. What I really want to know, is this a Yakan or a Borneo barong? There seems to be mistiness about the origin ot this sort of barongs. Attached Images

18th July 2015, 03:51 PM	#2
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,857	Typically these horn ferrules are associated with the Yakan Moros of Mindanao and Basilan. Though this one seems to fit the its scabbard perfectly, it is not what I would expect a typical Yakan scabbard to look like. see: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=yakan+barong Barongs certainly found their way to Borneo. There is some info on that in the above thread as well.

18th July 2015, 07:41 PM	#4
Rafngard Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Minneapolis,MN Posts: 340	I had my eye on that one as well. I'm glad it went to a forum member. I'm curious, would there have originally been a rattan wrap on the handle as well? Have fun, Leif

19th July 2015, 05:03 AM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,220	Rafngard, just for clarity, most of those tribes in the Sulu area use silver sleeves, but on Basilan Island, the Yakan use a horn sleeve instead. Usually both silver and horn sleeves are without woven bands on them. Good question though........