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Hello everybody, my first post in this section and it has been some time since my last post on Ethnographic Weapons, but reading often.
I have come across this wheellock musket that i want to share and learn about it since i don't know much on the subject. Specs are as follow German stock ? decorated with inlay and engraved bone, pronounced cheek piece and trigger guard shaped grip Total lenght 88.5 cm Octagonal barrel lenght 56 cm Outside diameter of barrel (flat side) 3 cm Bore diameter 1.5 cm V-shaped cockspring and trigger mecanism inside lockplate No marks anywhere I hope for coments on date, period, area of provenance and any other info anyone can share to help identify or document this firearm. |
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Welcome to European Armoury forum, Cylord.
Impressive example. Let's see what the experts tell us about it. Un gran saludo ![]() Fernando |
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Hi Cylord,
This is not a military musket but the remnants of a ca. 1760 East German or Polish wheel-lock short hunting rifle (German Stutzen); the horn inlay in the stock might be original, then it's Silesian. Most probably though it's a 19th century 'embellishing' work. The lock is of the plainest and latest form, with some elements missing from the left inside - see screw holes! The trigger is a crude replacement. As it is a rifle, it must have had a set trigger which is also missing now. The fore end is broken off, and so is the ramrod finial. I would not even touch it, to be honest, but then, my fellow forum members know that my standards are strict and uncompromising. This does not have to be true for everybody - to each his own! ![]() Best, Michael Last edited by Jim McDougall; 27th July 2010 at 06:55 AM. |
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Google translation ... and not only
![]() Hello everyone: I live in Argentina, and i do not know english. I can only say that this is a child's rifle, for some important person, to be tought how to handle a firearm. The short barrel confirms this. There are a few specimens in some museums. Affectionately. Fernando Original Spanish: Hola a todos: Resido en Argentina, y no sé inglés. Solamente puedo decir que este es un rifle de niño, para algún personaje importante, para enseñar a manejar un arma de fuego. El corto cañón así lo certifica. Hay en los museos algunos ejemplares. Afectuosamente. Fernando Last edited by fernando; 27th July 2010 at 05:08 PM. |
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Sorry, Fernando K,
This is by no means a rifle made for a child; if so it would not only have a short barrel but all other proportions, lock and stock, would be smaller as well. They, however, are of average adult size. It is, as I said, a Stutzen for huntig in underwood, as they are still built today. Best, Michael |
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Sorry for the late answer.
Un saludo Fernando thanks for the wellcome. Michael, certainly it is a hunting rifle, i could figure it out for the animals engraved on the inlay. What i don't know is if the term musket is use only for military and rifle for hunting ?. ![]() Fernando K, michael is correct the rifle is short but heavy and the stock is too big for a boy's hand to properly reach and pull the trigger, saludos. Vicente |
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Hola a todos:
Resido en Argentina, y perdonarán que no escribo en inglés. Este no es un rifle corto de caza, sino un rifle para niño (boy`s rifle). El largo del cañón así lo certifica. Si hacemos una reproducción a escala, veremos que no es un rifle con un cañon corto, sino que todo está en proporciones, con una culata menor que lo común. Como bien ha dicho Matchlock, le falta el cubrecazoleta (cover-pan), su leva y su resorte. Afectuosamente Fernando Keilty Argentina PD: Escribo este post por segunda vez. No sé que ha pasado, pero no se publicó. |
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