Question for info

kulbuntet · 2nd June 2010, 09:02 PM

Hallo all,

I was wondering if there is a image of the keris of Pangeran Diponegoro. And does anny one know were the keris is? I was confiscated by the Dutch when he surrenderd. But i have no clue where it is now. Did the Dutch return it to Indonesia, or is it somewere in a Dutch museum or private collection? I have asked some people, but they dont know. Does anny body here have info about it. Or maybe a photo or good drawing of it?

Thank you in advance for information posted.

Regards Abdulrahman

ganjawulung · 2nd June 2010, 10:37 PM

Dear Michel AbdulRahman,

I have in my hand, a copy of museum catalogue which published some images of Pangeran Diponegoro's keris. (The copy of the catalogue was given by Dietrich Drescher or Ki Jayamalelo two weeks ago). According to the text in the catalogue, the keris is in a museum in Germany. This is the address, according to the text in catalogue:

OO. Landesmuseum
Gunter Dimt
Museumstrasse 14
4010 Linz

The Diponegoro's kris (straight keris, dapur of "jalak sangu tumpeng" -- with two sogokan, and tingil, and ornamented with gold 'kinatah' type of 'panjiwilis' depicting "kala makara"... beside is the image of Jogja warangka, type of Amangkurat with silver pendhok bunton)

I hope, it would help

GANJAWULUNG

Gustav · 2nd June 2010, 10:43 PM

Linz is situated in Austria.

ganjawulung · 2nd June 2010, 10:46 PM

Thanks Gustav,

Yes, it was a stupid mistake.....

GANJAWULUNG

Gustav · 2nd June 2010, 11:59 PM

Actually this keris, which possibly belonged to Diponegoro, is to be found in the Museum für Völkerkunde Wien.

It's pendhok bunton is made of gold or at least gold plated.

PenangsangII · 29th December 2011, 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ganjawulung

Dear Michel AbdulRahman,

I have in my hand, a copy of museum catalogue which published some images of Pangeran Diponegoro's keris. (The copy of the catalogue was given by Dietrich Drescher or Ki Jayamalelo two weeks ago). According to the text in the catalogue, the keris is in a museum in Germany. This is the address, according to the text in catalogue:

OO. Landesmuseum
Gunter Dimt
Museumstrasse 14
4010 Linz

The Diponegoro's kris (straight keris, dapur of "jalak sangu tumpeng" -- with two sogokan, and tingil, and ornamented with gold 'kinatah' type of 'panjiwilis' depicting "kala makara"... beside is the image of Jogja warangka, type of Amangkurat with silver pendhok bunton)

I hope, it would help

GANJAWULUNG

I am sorry to raise this old thread again..... But I cant help it.

Could anybody provide photographs of the Pangeran Diponegoro's keris from the museum? Thks.

David · 29th December 2011, 07:07 AM

Well, this isn't exactly what you want, but perhaps it will still add to the discussion.

PenangsangII · 30th December 2011, 06:38 AM

Thanks David. This portrait might be an artist impression of what Pangeran Diponegoro looked like, or dressed like.

Any photo from the museum of the said Jalak Sangu Tumpeng?

drdavid · 30th December 2011, 12:13 PM

There does not seem to be an image of this particular item on their website although there is this
Museum of Ethnology Vienna and a curator to contact.
drd

2nd June 2010, 09:02 PM	#1
kulbuntet Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands Posts: 159	Question for info Hallo all, I was wondering if there is a image of the keris of Pangeran Diponegoro. And does anny one know were the keris is? I was confiscated by the Dutch when he surrenderd. But i have no clue where it is now. Did the Dutch return it to Indonesia, or is it somewere in a Dutch museum or private collection? I have asked some people, but they dont know. Does anny body here have info about it. Or maybe a photo or good drawing of it? Thank you in advance for information posted. Regards Abdulrahman

2nd June 2010, 10:37 PM	#2
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	OO Landesmuseum Dear Michel AbdulRahman, I have in my hand, a copy of museum catalogue which published some images of Pangeran Diponegoro's keris. (The copy of the catalogue was given by Dietrich Drescher or Ki Jayamalelo two weeks ago). According to the text in the catalogue, the keris is in a museum in Germany. This is the address, according to the text in catalogue: OO. Landesmuseum Gunter Dimt Museumstrasse 14 4010 Linz The Diponegoro's kris (straight keris, dapur of "jalak sangu tumpeng" -- with two sogokan, and tingil, and ornamented with gold 'kinatah' type of 'panjiwilis' depicting "kala makara"... beside is the image of Jogja warangka, type of Amangkurat with silver pendhok bunton) I hope, it would help GANJAWULUNG

29th December 2011, 07:07 AM	#7
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,123	Well, this isn't exactly what you want, but perhaps it will still add to the discussion. Attached Images

2nd June 2010, 10:43 PM	#3
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,249	Linz is situated in Austria.

2nd June 2010, 10:46 PM	#4
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	Thanks Gustav, Yes, it was a stupid mistake..... GANJAWULUNG

2nd June 2010, 11:59 PM	#5
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,249	Actually this keris, which possibly belonged to Diponegoro, is to be found in the Museum für Völkerkunde Wien. It's pendhok bunton is made of gold or at least gold plated.

30th December 2011, 06:38 AM	#8
PenangsangII Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 401	Thanks David. This portrait might be an artist impression of what Pangeran Diponegoro looked like, or dressed like. Any photo from the museum of the said Jalak Sangu Tumpeng?

30th December 2011, 12:13 PM	#9
drdavid Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 371	There does not seem to be an image of this particular item on their website although there is this Museum of Ethnology Vienna and a curator to contact. drd