Türckische Cammer in Dresden

Tatyana Dianova · 14th April 2010, 04:28 PM

Here is a link to the video about the Türckische Cammer:
http://www.skdmuseum.de/en/museums-i...mer/index.html
I think that the opening of this permanent exhibition in Dresden is a unique event and I am really happy about it.

RSWORD · 15th April 2010, 12:11 AM

Thank you for sharing the link. Would love to visit this exhibition. Just the video preview alone made my mouth water from all the beautiful swords, guns, etc. And the provenance can't get any better! Well worth a visit to view quality early material!

Battara · 15th April 2010, 02:46 AM

Love the stuff! Vielen Dank!

ariel · 15th April 2010, 11:59 AM

I got the book. Gorgeous thing. But I was disappointed: virtually all swords show only handles and fragments of scabbards. Only a couple of daggers and only one saber ( a gorgeous Tatar one!) show full blades. It is more an art book than a sword one.
Also, interestingly, the blades are very clean, well polished but none are etched. Most of them must be wootz-y, but nobody bothered to reveal the pattern. Was it a philosophy of the museum or just naivete?

Tatyana Dianova · 15th April 2010, 01:28 PM

There are two books really: the full catalogue and a shorter paperback edition. I am going to look through them (and buy one) at the museum in the nearest future. I hope that in the large book full blades will be shown more frequently...
You will find no wootz pattern on any of the blades in this collection, that's true... I think it has something to do with the museum conservation methods. But no rust either :-) Interesting, that Japanese blades from the same period in the same museum still show their hamon and hada...

ALEX · 15th April 2010, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

... the blades are very clean, well polished but none are etched. Most of them must be wootz-y, but nobody bothered to reveal the pattern. Was it a philosophy of the museum or just naivete?

The same is in Wallace Collection, which hosts magnificent Indo Persian arms, some are of such great wootz that it can be seen even on thoroughly polished blades. Simple reason - when collections were formed, the European taste was exclusively towards brightly polished blade, and ALL swords were treated equally i.e. polished bright. Later, when collection became a National Trust, any modification to any object became not easy thing to do. The curators are most certainly aware of wootz and how to reveal it, but all they can apply to a blade without being fired is wax, not acid:-) I am sure one day the blades will be etched and wootz revealed.
By the way, Wallace Collection is working on a new book covering ALL Islamic weapons in their Oriental Rooms. It WILL be a fantastic cataloque for sure. The work has already begun and we will see it in a year or two.

Tatyana Dianova · 16th April 2010, 07:17 AM

Great news, Alex!

Dmitry · 23rd July 2010, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALEX

By the way, Wallace Collection is working on a new book covering ALL Islamic weapons in their Oriental Rooms. It WILL be a fantastic cataloque for sure. The work has already begun and we will see it in a year or two.

That is great news indeed. The only book I have on the Islamic and Indian weapons in the Wallace Collection is a 1914 catalogue by Guy Laking, but it isn't illustrated.

Dmitry · 19th August 2010, 03:28 PM

I just received the German language catalog of the collection by Holger Schuckelt. There are some magnificent pieces pictured and described in the book. For what it represents, the book it a definite bargain. It's a shame it's only in German. Were it in English , I'm sure it'd be an international best-seller.

14th April 2010, 04:28 PM	#1
Tatyana Dianova Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 682	Türckische Cammer in Dresden Here is a link to the video about the Türckische Cammer: http://www.skdmuseum.de/en/museums-i...mer/index.html I think that the opening of this permanent exhibition in Dresden is a unique event and I am really happy about it.

15th April 2010, 12:11 AM	#2
RSWORD Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,083	Thank you for sharing the link. Would love to visit this exhibition. Just the video preview alone made my mouth water from all the beautiful swords, guns, etc. And the provenance can't get any better! Well worth a visit to view quality early material!

15th April 2010, 02:46 AM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,161	Love the stuff! Vielen Dank!

15th April 2010, 11:59 AM	#4
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	I got the book. Gorgeous thing. But I was disappointed: virtually all swords show only handles and fragments of scabbards. Only a couple of daggers and only one saber ( a gorgeous Tatar one!) show full blades. It is more an art book than a sword one. Also, interestingly, the blades are very clean, well polished but none are etched. Most of them must be wootz-y, but nobody bothered to reveal the pattern. Was it a philosophy of the museum or just naivete?

15th April 2010, 01:28 PM	#5
Tatyana Dianova Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 682	There are two books really: the full catalogue and a shorter paperback edition. I am going to look through them (and buy one) at the museum in the nearest future. I hope that in the large book full blades will be shown more frequently... You will find no wootz pattern on any of the blades in this collection, that's true... I think it has something to do with the museum conservation methods. But no rust either :-) Interesting, that Japanese blades from the same period in the same museum still show their hamon and hada...

16th April 2010, 07:17 AM	#7
Tatyana Dianova Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 682	Great news, Alex!

19th August 2010, 03:28 PM	#9
Dmitry Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 607	I just received the German language catalog of the collection by Holger Schuckelt. There are some magnificent pieces pictured and described in the book. For what it represents, the book it a definite bargain. It's a shame it's only in German. Were it in English , I'm sure it'd be an international best-seller.