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Old 8th October 2009, 06:25 AM   #1
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Default Seax? and a conservation question

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The knife from the attached pictures has been found in North-Western Bulgaria. To me, it looks like a short seax, but I may be wrong and I would be very interested in your opnion on its appropriate identification.

The hilt looks like ivory. Does anyone know if it is normal for ivory to get this greenish hue after being in the ground for a while?

Finally, my friend who owns it wonders what is the best way to preserve a blade in such a condition? Should he try to conserve with phosphorus or would some kind of lacquer be more appropriate?

Thank you in advance for your answers,
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Old 8th October 2009, 06:58 AM   #2
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looks very seaxy to me! the ivory could have picked up some copper salts from any brass or bronze (the bolster/guard possibly?) in the area, looks like the green starts at the guard and works it's way up the grip....

maybe looked somewhat like this when it was a bit newer:
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Old 8th October 2009, 10:51 AM   #3
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Hi Teodor,

As to conservation, there is only one truly professional way to save the piece once and for all.

Put the item just the way it is right away in a water proof box and cover it with distilled water. The water should be renewed daily until no more bubbles can be noticed arising. By then, all the obnoxious yellowish salt particles should have been washed out.

Next, thoroughly dry the piece in an oven at ca. 150° Celsius for about two hours and let it cool down.

Then make a watered solution of tannin, a yellowish powder available at drugstores, and let the item rest in that solution, completely covered, for about 24 hours; turn it around one or two times. Take it out and rub it dry and there will no more problems arise whatsoever.

The method you suggested is purely chaotic and bound to destroy the item in the long run as the salt particles will unharmed remain in the metal and continue their destructive work beneath the lacquer or wax layer. Any acid cleaning will lead to heavy substantial losses and ruin the surface irrevocably.

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I do not think the grip is actually of ivory, it is most probably staghorn or bone instead.

I have often seen excavated bone grips turned green, mostly from copper oxidation (verdigris); maybe the iron sleeve at the base of the grip is copper or brass brazed.

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Michael,

Thank you very much for your reply and conservations tip - I will advise my friend to try the procedure you suggested. In the final step, is there a recommended ratio for the tannin solution, such as this many grams of tannin per this many liters of water?

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looks very seaxy to me! the ivory could have picked up some copper salts from any brass or bronze (the bolster/guard possibly?) in the area, looks like the green starts at the guard and works it's way up the grip....

maybe looked somewhat like this when it was a bit newer:
Yes, something like this is what I am imagining it looked like over a millenium ago.
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Hi Teodor,

I would suggest a ratio of tannin : water of 1 : 4.

Sorry for not mentioning that.

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Hi Teodor,

I would suggest a ratio of tannin : water of 1 : 4.

Sorry for not mentioning that.

Best,
Michael
Michael,

You have been of tremendous help. Sorry for all of my questions, but me and my friend are new to this field, as our collections tend to be of mostly 19th century items.

I was just wondering, for all the manipulations, should the seax be submerged blade down into the distilled water/tannin solution with the hilt left sticking out of the container, or is it safe to submerge the hilt as well? I am afraid disattaching blade and hilt is impossible.

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Old 8th October 2009, 08:58 PM   #9
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My understanding is that washing may be the best option, and that the tannin treatment really doesnt do anything.

For the last word, you may be interested in this book, recently published, pretty much the only book on conservation of iron/steel.

http://www.amazon.com/Iron-Steel-Cor.../dp/1904982050
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