Philippine Dagger?

Robert · 5th August 2005, 08:21 PM

I beleave this dagger to be from the Philippines though I'm not quit sure. I would like to hear the opinions of the experts on this.

Blade lenth is 9-7/16 inches.
Blade width is 1-1/16 inch.
Blade thickness is 1/4 inch.
Hilt lenth is 4-1/8 inch.
Fittings are brass.
Grip is beautifully carved horn.
Tang goes through the grip and is rivited over.
Medial ridge on both sides of blade.

Robert

Bill · 6th August 2005, 11:33 PM

Hi Robert, I'll vote with you that it is from the PI, but I guess it could have come from Mexico, So. America or a half a dozen other places. Has the appearance that it came from a Spanish colony, some 100 years+?

Robert · 7th August 2005, 06:20 AM

Bill,
Thank you for your thoughts on this. I was thinking Spanish Colonial Philippines but seeing as I'm still quite knew at collecting I like to get opinions from the experts on the pieces I aquire. If anyone else has any opinions on this dagger please feel free to post them as I would like to get as much input on this piece as possible. Thanks.

Robert

Ian · 9th August 2005, 10:45 AM

Hi Robert:

I agree with the "Spanish Colonial" attribution, probably late 19th or early 20th C. based on other similar examples. Hard to say whether Mexican or Filipino. There was considerable cultural exchange between the two colonial centers up to the end of the 19th C.

Ian.

Robert · 9th August 2005, 07:29 PM

Ian,
Thank you. Could you please tell me where I might be able to see other examples of this style of dagger? Thanks again.

Robert

Ian · 9th August 2005, 11:28 PM

Sure Robert.

There are a couple of older threads you may want to check out. These still have their pictures intact.

http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000961.html

http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001816.html

The style of your knife is similar to those emerging from Albacete in Spain during the mid- to late-19th C. Marc is our resident authority on this subject and provided insights into this style in one of those threads. It was a popular style and seems to have spread widely through the Spanish Colonial Empire. Whether the style originated in Albacete is debatable, but there appears to have been many knives from that region in the style.

Ian.

5th August 2005, 08:21 PM	#1
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Philippine Dagger? I beleave this dagger to be from the Philippines though I'm not quit sure. I would like to hear the opinions of the experts on this. Blade lenth is 9-7/16 inches. Blade width is 1-1/16 inch. Blade thickness is 1/4 inch. Hilt lenth is 4-1/8 inch. Fittings are brass. Grip is beautifully carved horn. Tang goes through the grip and is rivited over. Medial ridge on both sides of blade. Robert Attached Images

6th August 2005, 11:33 PM	#2
Bill Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago area Posts: 327	Hi Robert, I'll vote with you that it is from the PI, but I guess it could have come from Mexico, So. America or a half a dozen other places. Has the appearance that it came from a Spanish colony, some 100 years+?

7th August 2005, 06:20 AM	#3
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Bill, Thank you for your thoughts on this. I was thinking Spanish Colonial Philippines but seeing as I'm still quite knew at collecting I like to get opinions from the experts on the pieces I aquire. If anyone else has any opinions on this dagger please feel free to post them as I would like to get as much input on this piece as possible. Thanks. Robert

9th August 2005, 10:45 AM	#4
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,200	Hi Robert: I agree with the "Spanish Colonial" attribution, probably late 19th or early 20th C. based on other similar examples. Hard to say whether Mexican or Filipino. There was considerable cultural exchange between the two colonial centers up to the end of the 19th C. Ian.

9th August 2005, 07:29 PM	#5
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Ian, Thank you. Could you please tell me where I might be able to see other examples of this style of dagger? Thanks again. Robert

9th August 2005, 11:28 PM	#6
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,200	Sure Robert. There are a couple of older threads you may want to check out. These still have their pictures intact. http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000961.html http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001816.html The style of your knife is similar to those emerging from Albacete in Spain during the mid- to late-19th C. Marc is our resident authority on this subject and provided insights into this style in one of those threads. It was a popular style and seems to have spread widely through the Spanish Colonial Empire. Whether the style originated in Albacete is debatable, but there appears to have been many knives from that region in the style. Ian.