opinions on my kerises

casey · 24th December 2004, 02:01 PM

Hi all,
I was given 24 kerises by a good friend who had been collecting weapons for about 40 years.Unfortunately we did'nt have a chance to get into detail about them,He just told me that some of them are of a high quality and there are some very old ones.Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Rick · 24th December 2004, 02:29 PM

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Welcome !

nechesh · 24th December 2004, 03:19 PM

Welcome Casey. We look forward to seeing your collection. Anyone who would give 24 keris to you, especially if any are high quality or old, must be a very good friend indeed. It appears you will be having a very merry Kerismas.

Lee · 25th December 2004, 04:51 PM

Here is a clearer rendition of the first picture above:

nechesh · 25th December 2004, 05:32 PM

Hi Casey, you have a mix of quality and styles here. I find the 3rd image of the Bali keris to perhaps be the best blade among them, but that's pretty subjective. Most of your pieces could use some restortation of some sort if you are into doing that with your collection.
The keris singo (lion) looks like it might be interesting. It's hard to judge with your photos because they appear to be on the point of pixelating, making it difficult to make out detail. It would also be nice to see the entire blade of your keris as one can not get a feel for the flow of the design in the entire blade. This is an essential part to the overall appreciation and assessment of a good keris.
Your friend has started you off witrh quite an interesting collection. Few of us ever got such a nice opening opportunity. Congrats! I look forward to seeing more of your new found passion. You're hooked now.

Is there some reason why you friend sudden gave you these. Has he given up collecting.

Henk · 26th December 2004, 10:24 AM

Nechesh is right. A very mixed collection. But a very nice start to begin with.

1. Keris solo, Java, Pamor bulut ayam.
2. This is a maduran keris. The first tourist keris for the dutch soldiers who came home during and after the war. I use to call this a KNIL keris. Koninklijk (Royal) Nederlands (Dutch) Indisch (Indonesian) Leger (Army). The keris itself is a real and good keris. The dress however was made of a cheap piece of wood and carved quickly. You see them still regularly.
3. Nice bali keris with a pendok on the back side. Would be nice to see a picture of it. The mendak is missing.
4. A real balinese tourist keris.
5. Balinese tombak. In my opinion for tourists.
6. Jogya keris, Java. Keris singa. The sitting lion. I think a very nice one.
7. Balinese keris with a walikat sandang scabbard. Very nice. Here too is the mendak missing.
8. Bugis keris. And a good one. Please turn the ukiran (the grip) 90 degrees to the other side.
9. Keris madura. The inlay under the pendok is turtle shell. This ukiran should be turned too 90 degrees.
10. Keris solo, Java.

You have a couple of nice keris. Some care is necesarry but it was a gift. I would be happy too when my friend came with a box with 24 kerisses.

24th December 2004, 02:01 PM	#1
casey Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: australia Posts: 13	opinions on my kerises Hi all, I was given 24 kerises by a good friend who had been collecting weapons for about 40 years.Unfortunately we did'nt have a chance to get into detail about them,He just told me that some of them are of a high quality and there are some very old ones.Any help would be greatly appreciated. Attached Images Last edited by casey; 24th December 2004 at 09:37 PM. Reason: can post pics

24th December 2004, 02:29 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,288	Re Pics From the forum guidelines : DIRECT IMAGE UPLOADING from your computer to the server is now available in the form of ‘attachments’. The pictures will not show when you are composing your posts, but may be checked in the preview mode, where they show at the bottom of the post. You may include up to 10 images per post. You are encouraged to use this mechanism in order to maximize the archival integrity of the forum. Images which may be uploaded to the server include .jpeg (or .jpg), .png, .gif and .bmp. The width of the image must be 640 ( I think Lee has enabled 800 ) pixels or less in width and 1280 pixels or less in height or the image will be rejected. A maximum file size constraint of 200 kb is also in effect. If you do not have means to resize images within these constraints, you may e-mail them to ljones@vikingsword.com. The resized images will be returned in due course by e-mail for you to use in your posting. If you're having resizing problems feel free to contact any staff members . Looking forward to pix . Welcome !

24th December 2004, 03:19 PM	#3
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	On the first day of Kerismas..... Welcome Casey. We look forward to seeing your collection. Anyone who would give 24 keris to you, especially if any are high quality or old, must be a very good friend indeed. It appears you will be having a very merry Kerismas.

25th December 2004, 04:51 PM	#4
Lee EAAF Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Upstate New York, USA Posts: 911	Here is a clearer rendition of the first picture above: Attached Images

25th December 2004, 05:32 PM	#5
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	Hi Casey, you have a mix of quality and styles here. I find the 3rd image of the Bali keris to perhaps be the best blade among them, but that's pretty subjective. Most of your pieces could use some restortation of some sort if you are into doing that with your collection. The keris singo (lion) looks like it might be interesting. It's hard to judge with your photos because they appear to be on the point of pixelating, making it difficult to make out detail. It would also be nice to see the entire blade of your keris as one can not get a feel for the flow of the design in the entire blade. This is an essential part to the overall appreciation and assessment of a good keris. Your friend has started you off witrh quite an interesting collection. Few of us ever got such a nice opening opportunity. Congrats! I look forward to seeing more of your new found passion. You're hooked now. Is there some reason why you friend sudden gave you these. Has he given up collecting.

26th December 2004, 10:24 AM	#6
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Nechesh is right. A very mixed collection. But a very nice start to begin with. 1. Keris solo, Java, Pamor bulut ayam. 2. This is a maduran keris. The first tourist keris for the dutch soldiers who came home during and after the war. I use to call this a KNIL keris. Koninklijk (Royal) Nederlands (Dutch) Indisch (Indonesian) Leger (Army). The keris itself is a real and good keris. The dress however was made of a cheap piece of wood and carved quickly. You see them still regularly. 3. Nice bali keris with a pendok on the back side. Would be nice to see a picture of it. The mendak is missing. 4. A real balinese tourist keris. 5. Balinese tombak. In my opinion for tourists. 6. Jogya keris, Java. Keris singa. The sitting lion. I think a very nice one. 7. Balinese keris with a walikat sandang scabbard. Very nice. Here too is the mendak missing. 8. Bugis keris. And a good one. Please turn the ukiran (the grip) 90 degrees to the other side. 9. Keris madura. The inlay under the pendok is turtle shell. This ukiran should be turned too 90 degrees. 10. Keris solo, Java. You have a couple of nice keris. Some care is necesarry but it was a gift. I would be happy too when my friend came with a box with 24 kerisses.