Deop Gunsmith Family of Catalonia

dana_w · 6th February 2013, 07:46 PM

I have been spending a lot of time lately researching Arm and Armor makers from Catalonia. Most of the information I need is only available in expensive out of print books written in Spanish or Catalan. The first of these books that I have been able to purchase is “Diccionario Biografico de Artistas de Cataluna, desde la epoca romana hasta nuestros días.” Biographical Dictionary of Artists of Catalonia, from Roman times to the present. By J. F. Rafols and published in 1951.

Can anyone please help me with a translation on the Deop family of gun-makers. Google Translate is not much help. Here is what I know about them so far from "A History of Spanish Firearms" by Dr. James D. Lavin (1965), Page 219-220.

Deop was Ripoll`s first family of gunsmiths. They supposedly immigrated from Germany in the mid sixteenth century, and were still manufacturing gun locks well into the nineteenth century. The size and long history of this family contributes to the confusion when trying to identify an individual maker.

Attached are two photographs of a holster pistol with a lock made by Augusti Deop, and two pages of information on Deop makers in Spanish.

Images Copyright © 2013 Dana K. Williams All Rights Reserved.

dana_w · 8th February 2013, 04:14 AM

Here is an example of how the on-line translators handle the first section.

Google Translate
Malestros Eshirpe of gunsmiths miciada eu Ripoll xvx mid century, where prcsiguio far into the nineteenth century.
Apparently it was Orlunda of Central Europe and that there were three Deep - Peter, Arnaldo and Gimldo - that establecleron in
that city. This surname was often eutre ripollenses gunsmiths, which specialized in Pany << >> so that the
panyetaixes << name >>, asf estlrpes other specialized in enceps << >> or << cenons >>. Their weapons are abundant in punzén
ripollenses arrivals until nuescros times.

Bing Translate
Malestros dealers miciada eu Ripoll in the middle of the XIX century Eshirpe, where are prcsiguio to very entrance century xrx.
Seems it was orlunda in central Europe and that three were the Deep - Peter, Arnaldo and Gimldo - that is establecleron in
the ville. This last name was frequent bead the dealers ripollenses, which specialized in < < company > > so it is the
It was called < < panyetaixes > >, as well as other estlrpes specialized in < < enceps > > or < < cenons > >. Its punzen abounds in guns them
ripollenses departures up to nuescros times.

Fernando K · 8th February 2013, 08:11 PM

Dear Dana:

"Pistoles, trabucs i pedrenyals" by Martí, Salas and Calvó. Lexic:

Pedrenyals: wheellock gun

Pany: lock

Panyetaire: lock maker

Pedrenyaler: gun maker

Serraller: cerrajero (castellano) lock of door

Pedrenyaler: pedrenyal maker

canó: Barrel

canoner: barrel maker

enceps: stoks

Fertnando K

dana_w · 8th February 2013, 08:25 PM

Thanks so much Fernando K, that is a great help.

Is there anything I can look up for you in these books?

Fernando K · 8th February 2013, 10:05 PM

Dana:

I do not understand. I have photocopias.........

Fernando K

dana_w · 9th February 2013, 03:42 AM

Do you own “Diccionario Biografico de Artistas de Cataluna, desde la epoca romana hasta nuestros días” Fernando K?

If not, I will be glad to look up anything for you.

6th February 2013, 07:46 PM	#1
dana_w Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Southeast Florida, USA Posts: 429	Deop Gunsmith Family of Catalonia I have been spending a lot of time lately researching Arm and Armor makers from Catalonia. Most of the information I need is only available in expensive out of print books written in Spanish or Catalan. The first of these books that I have been able to purchase is “Diccionario Biografico de Artistas de Cataluna, desde la epoca romana hasta nuestros días.” Biographical Dictionary of Artists of Catalonia, from Roman times to the present. By J. F. Rafols and published in 1951. Can anyone please help me with a translation on the Deop family of gun-makers. Google Translate is not much help. Here is what I know about them so far from "A History of Spanish Firearms" by Dr. James D. Lavin (1965), Page 219-220. Deop was Ripoll`s first family of gunsmiths. They supposedly immigrated from Germany in the mid sixteenth century, and were still manufacturing gun locks well into the nineteenth century. The size and long history of this family contributes to the confusion when trying to identify an individual maker. Attached are two photographs of a holster pistol with a lock made by Augusti Deop, and two pages of information on Deop makers in Spanish. Images Copyright © 2013 Dana K. Williams All Rights Reserved. Attached Images

8th February 2013, 04:14 AM	#2
dana_w Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Southeast Florida, USA Posts: 429	Here is an example of how the on-line translators handle the first section. Google Translate Malestros Eshirpe of gunsmiths miciada eu Ripoll xvx mid century, where prcsiguio far into the nineteenth century. Apparently it was Orlunda of Central Europe and that there were three Deep - Peter, Arnaldo and Gimldo - that establecleron in that city. This surname was often eutre ripollenses gunsmiths, which specialized in Pany << >> so that the panyetaixes << name >>, asf estlrpes other specialized in enceps << >> or << cenons >>. Their weapons are abundant in punzén ripollenses arrivals until nuescros times. Bing Translate Malestros dealers miciada eu Ripoll in the middle of the XIX century Eshirpe, where are prcsiguio to very entrance century xrx. Seems it was orlunda in central Europe and that three were the Deep - Peter, Arnaldo and Gimldo - that is establecleron in the ville. This last name was frequent bead the dealers ripollenses, which specialized in < < company > > so it is the It was called < < panyetaixes > >, as well as other estlrpes specialized in < < enceps > > or < < cenons > >. Its punzen abounds in guns them ripollenses departures up to nuescros times.

8th February 2013, 08:11 PM	#3
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 669	Dear Dana: "Pistoles, trabucs i pedrenyals" by Martí, Salas and Calvó. Lexic: Pedrenyals: wheellock gun Pany: lock Panyetaire: lock maker Pedrenyaler: gun maker Serraller: cerrajero (castellano) lock of door Pedrenyaler: pedrenyal maker canó: Barrel canoner: barrel maker enceps: stoks Fertnando K

8th February 2013, 08:25 PM	#4
dana_w Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Southeast Florida, USA Posts: 429	Thanks so much Fernando K, that is a great help. Is there anything I can look up for you in these books?

8th February 2013, 10:05 PM	#5
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 669	Dana: I do not understand. I have photocopias......... Fernando K

9th February 2013, 03:42 AM	#6
dana_w Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Southeast Florida, USA Posts: 429	Do you own “Diccionario Biografico de Artistas de Cataluna, desde la epoca romana hasta nuestros días” Fernando K? If not, I will be glad to look up anything for you.