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25th April 2015, 04:58 PM
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An Omani abu Fitila Matchlock gun for comment
According to Elgood ( N°50 page 86) this Abu Fitila is with a 17 th century barrel of architectural form.
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25th April 2015, 05:00 PM
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ONE MORE PIC
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25th April 2015, 09:38 PM
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Yes a nice Omani Abu Fitila. What is overall length of the piece? To me it looks quite short.
I have one of these with overall length of 64" (1625mm) and barrel length of 46" (1170mm) Stu |
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26th April 2015, 09:07 AM
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Well seen this one have a barrel around 90 cm and overall 130 cm. I 'm still astonished at this barrel is more than 300 years old! Do you have a similar design in your barrel I would like to see. Best Cerjak |
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26th April 2015, 12:15 PM
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Last edited by Ibrahiim al Balooshi; 26th April 2015 at 12:27 PM. |
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26th April 2015, 12:22 PM
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Salaams Cerjac, I have several barrels and complete Abu Futilla... Father of the Match or the one with the match ... Looking through Icoman it appears that a lot of guns were German...but as you say this Barrel seems to be Persian or Indian? I mention Icoman many times in http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=Forts and I have a number of barrels that have blown apart at the first join. In my store there's a barrel just like yours. In the Islamic Arms by the late Anthony North he goes immediately into a description of these firearms and how a tried and trusted system in this theatre lasted and lasted ...That is very much the case with Omani weapons where for example Abu Futilla were still being used well into the late 20th Century! not to mention the length of time of the Omani Battle Sword... http://www.klm-mra.be/icomam/downloads/issue07.pdf is a useful reference and sets the background for the general theme... Regards, Ibrahiim al Balooshi. |
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26th April 2015, 01:04 PM
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Hello Cerjak,here is my Omani matchlock,missing few parts but that's the way I got it
AN OMANI MATCHLOCK MUSKET Description: The rosewood stock of characteristic form with expanded butt. With profiled and pierced trigger, the brass barrel bands retaining the forearm sheathing. Barrel with finely profiled pan and rear sight, breach and muzzle deeply inlaid with brass. Retains its brass match receptacle and extinguisher, as well as a length of original match cord. Early 19th century. Ramrod intact. Overall length 140.7 cm.Condition II Regards Rajesh |
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26th April 2015, 05:06 PM
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Thank you for this very interesting link It will be great if you could post some pics from your barrel. Best Cerjak |
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26th April 2015, 09:33 PM
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1st June 2015, 08:23 AM
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Omani Barrels
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Salaams I just need to slide in a few barrels as examples here...some are blown. It is interesting that Icoman see http://www.klm-mra.be/icomam/downloads/issue07.pdf appear to suggest a relationship with German barrels however I follow the Persia link. I throw in a picture of 3 Omani wooden powder flasks and a picture of tribals with abu futilla ...the one with the match..(Literal translation is Father of the Match). Added for good measure... is a shot...of the brass cases containing the barrel charge and wadd...which fit in a belt ...in the style of The Ottoman item. In addition various sketches of Omani tribal warriors with the weapon displayed. What I dont show here is the preferred use of skin ...wolf...around the butt probably with Talismanic properties. Regards, Ibrahiim al Balooshi. Last edited by Ibrahiim al Balooshi; 1st June 2015 at 11:26 AM. |
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3rd June 2015, 02:32 PM
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Another artwork addition...
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10th June 2015, 05:13 PM
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The tree from which the gunpowder was made and mixed with...Sodoms Apple...Roasted and mixed with sulphur etc... growing wild in my garden.
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11th June 2015, 07:07 PM
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Have you tried to make powder with this tree? Does it need large amounts of water to grow? I really am interested to know more about this. If it does not put up as much pressure as black powder it would explain how the stocks of a lot of these type of guns could be so fragile as compared to the European styles
Last edited by ward; 11th June 2015 at 07:09 PM. Reason: spelling mistake |
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