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Old 12th October 2008, 03:07 AM   #1
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I recently Picked this piece up on my travels. It is late early15 or 16 centry left hand sword. The writing is hungarian and was translated for me but I do not have the translation with me right now and will post it later. Solingen blade. Any comments about are apprecated.
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Old 12th October 2008, 03:10 AM   #2
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Old 12th October 2008, 06:31 AM   #3
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Hi Clockwork,
Its great to see an outstanding sword example posted!!!! Would it be possible to reduce the picture size a bit though, I'd like to see the entire sword and clarify the shots of the markings. My vision ain't what it used to be
Apparantly the resolution just needs to be reduced.
Thats a fantastic example of the 'man in the moon' marking, and I've been trying to find more on its variations and earliest use.

Also, I'd like to know more on your perspective on the piece. Were any details included with the sword when you acquired it?

Thank you for posting this beauty, and I look forward to hearing more on it as well as the translation.

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Old 12th October 2008, 02:39 PM   #4
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Hi Tony,
Let's see what we have here ... may i ?
Are these allright for your eyes, old man ?
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Old 15th October 2008, 07:50 AM   #5
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Hi Tony,
Let's see what we have here ... may i ?
Are these allright for your eyes, old man ?
Fernando

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LOL!!! Much better ya rascal!!!!

Bill, thanks for the heads up on the ctrl key.....I'll get the hang of these magic boxes yet


Thank you guys!!!

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Old 13th October 2008, 02:57 AM   #6
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Hi Clockwork,
Would it be possible to reduce the picture size a bit though, I'd like to see the entire sword and clarify the shots of the markings. My vision ain't what it used to be

All the best,
Jim

Hi Jim,

Assuming you use Windows, if you hit "Ctrl -" , the pictures will get smaller. Then use "Ctrl +" to enlarge

Bill


Clockwork,

Is this called a "left hand" sword because it was used as a parry weapon? If so what makes a parry weapon/sword different from a main sword?
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Old 13th October 2008, 04:22 AM   #7
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On one side: Peter and Mary (Christ's Parents) In Solingen. The other: Henry Coel Fecit? Fecite? Me Fecit?

Nice piece!

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Old 15th October 2008, 12:21 PM   #8
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Geez! Christ's Parents! What a dumbo!

My apologies, I just re-read this and noticed my error. Then, of course, both names have theologic importance. While both Peter and Mary were cornerstones of Christianity. Joseph is almost never mentioned.

My grandma was a catholic fanatic, she would make the Vatican look like a bunch of liberals. Were she still around , I'd be now on my third thousandth hail mary. as penitence for my aspersions on Mary's virtuosity...

The first line still looks as a Hen Cóel, the second one I have no idea.

BTW, isn't that another version of those pesky multi-faceted urn pommels?

: )

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On one side: Peter and Mary (Christ's Parents) In Solingen. The other: Henry Coel Fecit? Fecite? Me Fecit?

Nice piece!

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Old 14th October 2008, 01:38 PM   #9
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... Is this called a "left hand" sword because it was used as a parry weapon? If so what makes a parry weapon/sword different from a main sword?
How long would the blade be ?
None of the pictures shows the entire piece.
Could it be that clockwork called it sword in the generic sense, but maybe refering to a left hand dagger ?
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Old 14th October 2008, 04:13 PM   #10
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A bit of detail on the mark. I will look for it when time permits.

Anybody have any ideas as to what it is?

Nice piece btw. Looks like the pieces are all contemporaneous. Say mid 16th perhaps?
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