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Old 20th December 2022, 04:23 AM   #1
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I managed to bid for this keris.

What is your review on this Bali keris sword?

I was told it is 19th century and only use for royalty.
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Old 20th December 2022, 04:26 AM   #2
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The auction has ended?
Your bid won it?

Maybe it's just the lighting, but dhapur looks kind of different.
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Old 20th December 2022, 04:27 AM   #3
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Is that a "death shroud" pamor?
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Old 20th December 2022, 04:30 AM   #4
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I think that death shroud could be one interpretation of the pamor, there are others I think.
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Old 20th December 2022, 04:43 AM   #5
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Is that a "death shroud" pamor?
someone told me is Tambangan Badung pamor.
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Old 20th December 2022, 02:52 PM   #6
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Buntel Mayit pamor is the term used in some places. It has an auspicious and also potentially the opposite vibe depending on if it's suitable for the custodian from what I understand. It's a lovely thing. What is the bilah length?
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Old 20th December 2022, 06:38 PM   #7
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Actually Sid, it is Buntel Mayat, the "Buntel Mayit" name is a corruption.

In Javanese the word "buntel" is a wrapping, & "mayit" is a corpse. "Buntel Mayit" = "corpse wrapping" which sounds pretty hairy & scary, especially so for people who do not understand.

On the other hand, the word "mayat" means "to slope upwards", & "Buntel Mayat" = "wrapped in an upwards direction". In the understanding of those people who were the acknowledged elites of keris understanding & belief in Solo during the 1970's & 1980's this was a very positive pamor that enhanced the advancement of the bearer.

The "mayit" thing is just another persistent misunderstanding. Not at all unusual where the keris is concerned. But this is for Javanese keris.

In Bali this pamor is "Tambang(an) Badung". The word "tambang" means "rope", "Badung" is a regency in South Bali that covers most of the well known tourist areas --- Kuta, Legian, etc. So"Tambang Badung" = "Badung Rope".
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Old 20th December 2022, 09:56 PM   #8
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Hello Sid,

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What is the bilah length?
The blade length (without pesi) is just over 47cm (18 5/8").

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Old 21st December 2022, 12:02 AM   #9
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Buntel Mayit pamor is the term used in some places. It has an auspicious and also potentially the opposite vibe depending on if it's suitable for the custodian from what I understand. It's a lovely thing. What is the bilah length?
total length 60cm
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Old 20th December 2022, 04:40 AM   #10
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The auction has ended?
Your bid won it?

Maybe it's just the lighting, but dhapur looks kind of different.

Auction ended and Yes. I won it.

The first time I saw this keris is in a book about Balinese keris years ago.

I told myself that I want it very badly and somehow has a strange feeling that oneday I will have it.
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Old 20th December 2022, 04:42 AM   #11
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I guess it was meant to be so, Anthony.
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Old 20th December 2022, 10:07 PM   #12
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Congrats, Anthony!

This keris was also on my list...

I handled it a long time ago; from my memory, it seems to be a legit keris pedang (AKA keris ligan) with an unusual wavy tip (i.e. luk).

Age I'd hesitate trying to narrow down.

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Old 20th December 2022, 10:33 PM   #13
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Let's see some more pictures please.
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Old 20th December 2022, 11:42 PM   #14
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I'm sure Anthony can add some more pics from the auction, Rick!

This keris was exhibited & published a while ago: Cp. the link given by me in post #31 of this thread:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=21646
Piece #17 on page 91 of the catalog is missing from the file online, unfortunately.

The catalog is also still available as book in both languages, I believe.

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Old 21st December 2022, 12:12 AM   #15
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Congrats, Anthony!

This keris was also on my list...

I handled it a long time ago; from my memory, it seems to be a legit keris pedang (AKA keris ligan) with an unusual wavy tip (i.e. luk).

Age I'd hesitate trying to narrow down.

Regards,
Kai
Hi Kai, omg. So you are one of the bidders and my heart almost stop when I saw the bidding price keeps going up non-stop but eventually I told myself this is the keris I must have no matter what.

Finally a dream comes true. I have been thinking of this keris non-stop ever since I saw it in the book years ago. These are the replicas but cannot compare with this original as there is no 'soul' in these replicas.
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