LUMAD KRIS

tanaruz · 15th August 2020, 01:19 PM

Hi friends,

From my father's collection: a kris from the Subanen tribe in Mindanao (Zamboanga del Sur). Hoof designed pommel. Hilt and scabbard with 'nylon-like' rope and rope.

Note: owned by a princess of the tribe (as claimed).

Regards

Yves

Ian · 15th August 2020, 01:52 PM

Hi Yves:

That's an interesting provenance.

The blade is probably Maguindanao in manufacture, like many Lumad kris. It has a very dark patina and appears to be quite old--I think it is from the 19th C. Is there anything about this sword and scabbard that specifically indicates links to the Subanen tribe?

Ian.

Battara · 15th August 2020, 07:45 PM

And may we please see better pictures?

Rick · 15th August 2020, 08:46 PM

This may help with improving picture quality.

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Battara · 16th August 2020, 01:53 AM

This might also help.

From these pictures it looks like a Maguindanao scabbard and blade, but more in line with the 1950s or later.

tanaruz · 16th August 2020, 10:50 AM

Hi friends,

Here are additional pictures of the blade. While holding and taking new pictures, I have noticed that the supposedly hilt wrap is not 'nylon' or something. On closer inspection (with a magnifying glass)- I can see that it's some sort of fine 'rattan' or any other twine (that is a first to me). The shiny effect on this material (because of age) make it looks nylon. And of course, the fine rope on the scabbard.

Provenance: according to my father, it came from the Subanen tribe (along with a spear- which head is made of BRASS-to ward off evil?) and used by a female shaman. The length is the wood for the spear is very short (only for a female's normal height). I will post its picture as I get them (they're in my father's gallery in the province).

This kris is allegedly owned by a princess (which i cannot post her name). It was a field collection.

This kris may have been of Maguindanaoan origin and it found its way to the Subanen tribe.

Regards

Yves

15th August 2020, 01:19 PM	#1
tanaruz Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 267	LUMAD KRIS Hi friends, From my father's collection: a kris from the Subanen tribe in Mindanao (Zamboanga del Sur). Hoof designed pommel. Hilt and scabbard with 'nylon-like' rope and rope. Note: owned by a princess of the tribe (as claimed). Regards Yves Attached Images

16th August 2020, 01:53 AM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,217	This might also help. From these pictures it looks like a Maguindanao scabbard and blade, but more in line with the 1950s or later. Attached Images

16th August 2020, 10:50 AM	#6
tanaruz Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 267	LUMAD KRIS Hi friends, Here are additional pictures of the blade. While holding and taking new pictures, I have noticed that the supposedly hilt wrap is not 'nylon' or something. On closer inspection (with a magnifying glass)- I can see that it's some sort of fine 'rattan' or any other twine (that is a first to me). The shiny effect on this material (because of age) make it looks nylon. And of course, the fine rope on the scabbard. Provenance: according to my father, it came from the Subanen tribe (along with a spear- which head is made of BRASS-to ward off evil?) and used by a female shaman. The length is the wood for the spear is very short (only for a female's normal height). I will post its picture as I get them (they're in my father's gallery in the province). This kris is allegedly owned by a princess (which i cannot post her name). It was a field collection. This kris may have been of Maguindanaoan origin and it found its way to the Subanen tribe. Regards Yves Attached Images

15th August 2020, 01:52 PM	#2
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,194	Hi Yves: That's an interesting provenance. The blade is probably Maguindanao in manufacture, like many Lumad kris. It has a very dark patina and appears to be quite old--I think it is from the 19th C. Is there anything about this sword and scabbard that specifically indicates links to the Subanen tribe? Ian.

15th August 2020, 07:45 PM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,217	And may we please see better pictures?

15th August 2020, 08:46 PM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,290	This may help with improving picture quality. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...aphing+Weapons