Help! I have a bad infection, again a kris!

Sajen · 20th November 2010, 05:01 PM

Hello, I have watched this auction and see that I will get the chance to do my next good bargain,so I give a moderate bid and win again. I think that it is a Sulu kris with a late 19th c. blade and maybe newer fittings. Until now I don't receiced it and only have the poor picture from the seller.
Here the link:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWNX:IT

What do you think?

Detlef

Battara · 20th November 2010, 06:53 PM

W W! You are turning into a Moro maniac (like the rest of us

).

Congratulations on this piece. The blade at least is Maguindanao and older. The scabbard is later WWII. Need to see close ups of the hilt, but the pommel is made of banati (burled) wood of some kind. Shame the scabbard is damaged, that MOP is lovely.

Sajen · 21st November 2010, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

W W! You are turning into a Moro maniac (like the rest of us

).

Congratulations on this piece. The blade at least is Maguindanao and older. The scabbard is later WWII. Need to see close ups of the hilt, but the pommel is made of banati (burled) wood of some kind. Shame the scabbard is damaged, that MOP is lovely.

Yes, I am turning into a Moro manic, special when I get the pieces by this prices.

My guess that it is a Sulu kris was founded by the horse hoof pommel since Cato write that this is typical for Sulu.

That the sheat is from WWII was clear.

kai · 21st November 2010, 03:10 AM

Hello Detlef,

Looks like a nice blade again!

Horse hoof pommel are often found on Sulu kris but not limited to that region. Please post close-ups when you receive it.

Regards,
Kai

David · 21st November 2010, 04:33 AM

Yeah Sajen, you're sick alright...

I suggest that you just pack up all these Moro thingies that you have been picking up and mail them straight to me.

I was watching this auction as well, but i tend to like my kris complete and the broken sheath bothered me. I'd say you got a good deal though and the kris itself is a nice one.
I agree with José that the blade looks Maguindanao, but i think it was rehilted at some time and the sheath is certainly newer than the blade.
Nice catch! Love to see it cleaned up.

Battara · 21st November 2010, 05:06 AM

Another thing to consider is that there was a lot of trade between the Sulu people and the Maguindanao. This includes blades as well. I have seen Sulu hilts on Maguindanao and visa versa. No surprise here. Might also explain the form of WWII scabbard used as well.

Sajen · 21st November 2010, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

Yeah Sajen, you're sick alright...

I suggest that you just pack up all these Moro thingies that you have been picking up and mail them straight to me.

I was watching this auction as well, but i tend to like my kris complete and the broken sheath bothered me. I'd say you got a good deal though and the kris itself is a nice one.
I agree with José that the blade looks Maguindanao, but i think it was rehilted at some time and the sheath is certainly newer than the blade.
Nice catch! Love to see it cleaned up.

Hi David,

normally I also look for complete kris, i.e. with unbroken sheath and easy restoreable but the price have been very low so I try a bid.

Regards,

Detlef

Sajen · 21st November 2010, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kai

Hello Detlef,

Looks like a nice blade again!

Horse hoof pommel are often found on Sulu kris but not limited to that region. Please post close-ups when you receive it.

Regards,
Kai

Hello Kai,

thank you. I still have to learn. You all have to explain one time how you can see by the "elephant trunk" from which tribe the blade forged.

When I received the kris I will post some close-ups.

Regards,

Detlef

20th November 2010, 05:01 PM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,787	Help! I have a bad infection, again a kris! Hello, I have watched this auction and see that I will get the chance to do my next good bargain,so I give a moderate bid and win again. I think that it is a Sulu kris with a late 19th c. blade and maybe newer fittings. Until now I don't receiced it and only have the poor picture from the seller. Here the link:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWNX:IT What do you think? Detlef Attached Images

20th November 2010, 06:53 PM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,226	W W! You are turning into a Moro maniac (like the rest of us ). Congratulations on this piece. The blade at least is Maguindanao and older. The scabbard is later WWII. Need to see close ups of the hilt, but the pommel is made of banati (burled) wood of some kind. Shame the scabbard is damaged, that MOP is lovely.

21st November 2010, 03:10 AM	#4
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,254	Hello Detlef, Looks like a nice blade again! Horse hoof pommel are often found on Sulu kris but not limited to that region. Please post close-ups when you receive it. Regards, Kai

21st November 2010, 04:33 AM	#5
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,127	Yeah Sajen, you're sick alright... I suggest that you just pack up all these Moro thingies that you have been picking up and mail them straight to me. I was watching this auction as well, but i tend to like my kris complete and the broken sheath bothered me. I'd say you got a good deal though and the kris itself is a nice one. I agree with José that the blade looks Maguindanao, but i think it was rehilted at some time and the sheath is certainly newer than the blade. Nice catch! Love to see it cleaned up.

21st November 2010, 05:06 AM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,226	Another thing to consider is that there was a lot of trade between the Sulu people and the Maguindanao. This includes blades as well. I have seen Sulu hilts on Maguindanao and visa versa. No surprise here. Might also explain the form of WWII scabbard used as well.