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Old 23rd December 2010, 08:42 PM   #1
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Default Dagger with gryphon head guillon terminals

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I am looking for à picture of à ballock type of dagger with gryphon cross terminals. Can anybody help?

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Old 3rd January 2011, 06:19 PM   #2
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similar to this one.
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Old 3rd January 2011, 07:33 PM   #3
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Hi Cornelis,

I regret not being able to offer the 'real thing' but hope that two similar, though heavily stylized, quillon finials on Landsknecht swords will provide a bit of additional backup information (the painting dated 1452, the sword ca. 1530).

Please cf. my thread
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...0&page=1&pp=30

If my scanner were not on strike I would post very similar gryhon quillons from a (composite) Landsknecht sword illustrated in Heinz R. Uhlemann: Kostbare Blankwaffen aus dem Deutschen Klingenmuseum Solingen, 1968, p. 49.

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Old 3rd January 2011, 09:32 PM   #4
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Hi Michael,

thank you for your always valuable feedback.
it is always very nice to see arm details back in art and architecture.

re:the finals of the sword of Klemens Thasche of p.49 are those not horseheads i/o gryphons?

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Hi Cornelis,

Thank you so much for your kind lines!

I surmised you owned that booklet.

Good question - I'm not sure. The style is grotesquely zoomorphic and characteristically Gothic anyway, just like the gargoyles on Gothic cathedrals. They were the nearest I could get to 'gryphon heads', so - sorry if they don't perfectly match.

Good night to the Netherlands and an obviously fine collection there,
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It is interesting how styles of beasties traverse the centuries. This one from the late 19th century but reminiscent of dirk quillion a century before that This one possibly arguable as the head of a porpoise and the ballock above quite canine.

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