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Old 12th January 2010, 12:59 AM   #1
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All the same info needed here guys !!!! This one is also in pretty good shape, biggest problem is the obvious crack in the stock, actually held together by the lower tang. The action is huge. This one has some marks visible in one of the pictures, I do not know what they mean. This is a very long weapon. These are not usually what I collect, but I still love the research and history behind them. What can you guys tell me about this ?
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Old 12th January 2010, 07:11 PM   #2
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Balkan's Snaphaunce..?

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All the same info needed here guys !!!! This one is also in pretty good shape, biggest problem is the obvious crack in the stock, actually held together by the lower tang. The action is huge. This one has some marks visible in one of the pictures, I do not know what they mean. This is a very long weapon. These are not usually what I collect, but I still love the research and history behind them. What can you guys tell me about this ?
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Old 12th January 2010, 08:29 PM   #3
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Balkan's Snaphaunce..?
Look's 100% Moroccan to me.
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Old 12th January 2010, 09:36 PM   #4
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So, is it as old as it looks ????
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Old 13th January 2010, 06:45 AM   #5
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Yes it's Moroccan and likely 19th/early 20th century. The use of flint/snaphaunce locks lasted much later in North Africa, in fact well into the 20th century in some areas, due to ease of getting hold of powder etc but no easy access to fixed ammunition.
Re the marks on the top of the barrel---if you can post a clear pic of these I will see if I can find them in any of my books.
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Old 14th January 2010, 12:23 PM   #6
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Collectible ? I will post better pictures of markings later this morning.
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Old 15th January 2010, 11:37 PM   #7
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Yes it's Moroccan and likely 19th/early 20th century. The use of flint/snaphaunce locks lasted much later in North Africa, in fact well into the 20th century in some areas, due to ease of getting hold of powder etc but no easy access to fixed ammunition.

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Stu, the mention of the reason that flintlock use continued in many places well past the introduction of cartridges and even into the 20th century was indeed because of difficulty in obtaining cartridge ammunition.

Even in America's frontier in the 1800's, the use of flintlocks was very much preferred by adventurers and 'mountain men' as they were often in far remote areas where such cartridge ammunition was not available.

As always, writers often have enjoyed sensationalizing tribesmen in more modern times using these anachronistic weapons as signs of thier being 'backward' or in the frontier cases of disparagingly referring to 'hillbillies' and such descriptions..while it was more often a very sensible case of reliability and availability of ammunition.

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