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Arriving end next week.
Said to date from the second half XVI century. The basket guard resembles those of Schiavonas, giving basis to the assumption that this sword is a primitive example of such swords. The nice sturdy pommel is however from a different school, although certainly belonging to the original setup. The blade tip is broken, probably only for a short length, despite the fuller appears to finish at the present end. Although not so commonly seen, blades may sometimes have full length fullers. Besides, this one (blade) still has a length of 84 cms. (over 33"), longer than 'current' schiavonas, i would say. I will check better on this issue when the sword arrives. However the more significant 'handycap', which surely influenced this sword's price, is a fissure in one side of the blade near the forte. I expect it hasn't significantly debilitated the blade's consistency. Anyhow i don't intend to practice fencing with it, and when i see it with naked eyes i may conclude that such crack was no more than the ideal accident to put its price on a 'decent' level. Your guys coments will be so much appreciated, be them either optimist or pessimist; just hit me hard, have no mercy ![]() I must advance that i have previously seeked backstage advice with our internal consultant Jim McDougall and Schiavona passionate Nathan Robinson from myArmoury, for whom both my recognition is addressed. . . Last edited by fernando; 3rd September 2011 at 08:06 PM. |
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Ah, something i forgot !
My kingdom to those who can tell (or guess) the provenance of this sword; Central Europe ... Germany, Italy? |
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I'd guess that it is Italy - the guard, as I understand, has a different build than German or landsknecht swords, but reminds closely that of a classic schiavona.
Also, what could happen with a tip of a blade? It seems to be cut or broken. |
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Thanks for your coments, Zwielicht.
I am waiting for the sword to have a closer look to both blade crack and the tip; i guess the tip was broken by accident and not cut for shortening. |
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Hi 'Nando,
My expert friend Ottmar says this was a North Italian variation of a very late schiavona type composed with a pommel of unusual shape, most probably put together in an arsenal for infantry armament in ca. the 1630's-40's. Best, Michl |
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Thank you so much Michl,
Also thank your friend Ottmar. I aknowledge and will register those coments in the sword computer folder. |
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Hi Fernando,
Will you be getting a 'display stand' like this for your Schiavona? ![]() ![]() ![]() My Regards, Norman. |
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Hi Norman,
We don't have this type of stands in local stores. Can you organize one and send it over ? ![]() ... I'll pay you in kind ![]() |
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Oh come on, 'Nando,
I remember some fine stands you made - you could easily build Norman's! ![]() Best, Michl |
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It's not a question of putting one up, Michl, but that of a certain difficulty in acquiring the right raw materials
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Brilliant!!!! I'm afraid though I can't help you out either. ![]() |
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