third Sajen Keris options please

Patje1970 · 3rd June 2019, 03:57 PM

Hi All,

Can anyone tell me more about the Sajen below? The size is 34 cm

regards Pat

David · 3rd June 2019, 06:07 PM

Well, i usually find it is hard to say much about these at all. Dating them is generally difficult at best as keris sajen have been made over a rather large period of time without much in the way of stylistic changes dependent upon era. If i were pressed on this one i would say it is probably newer than your #2 sajen, but i couldn't say how much newer. It has less wear and cleaner lines for sure. It also seems to be trying to incorporate more ricikan of the modern keris into it as it seems to have a clearly developed pejetan/blumbangan. It also has a very clearly delineated gonjo line. You will find this on older sajen, but if Alan's collection is anything to judge by that incised line is more common on the alternative style with the handle that faces the gandik than on this more common form. Not that it never shows up on this style, but it could be an age indicator. Perhaps Alan has more to say on that.
http://www.kerisattosanaji.com/kerissajen.html

Patje1970 · 7th June 2019, 06:24 PM

Hi David,

Thanks for the information, I skipped both Sajens

regards Pat

3rd June 2019, 03:57 PM	#1
Patje1970 Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 51	third Sajen Keris options please Hi All, Can anyone tell me more about the Sajen below? The size is 34 cm regards Pat Attached Images Last edited by Patje1970; 3rd June 2019 at 06:05 PM.

3rd June 2019, 06:07 PM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,120	Well, i usually find it is hard to say much about these at all. Dating them is generally difficult at best as keris sajen have been made over a rather large period of time without much in the way of stylistic changes dependent upon era. If i were pressed on this one i would say it is probably newer than your #2 sajen, but i couldn't say how much newer. It has less wear and cleaner lines for sure. It also seems to be trying to incorporate more ricikan of the modern keris into it as it seems to have a clearly developed pejetan/blumbangan. It also has a very clearly delineated gonjo line. You will find this on older sajen, but if Alan's collection is anything to judge by that incised line is more common on the alternative style with the handle that faces the gandik than on this more common form. Not that it never shows up on this style, but it could be an age indicator. Perhaps Alan has more to say on that. http://www.kerisattosanaji.com/kerissajen.html

7th June 2019, 06:24 PM	#3
Patje1970 Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 51	Hi David, Thanks for the information, I skipped both Sajens regards Pat