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Old 6th May 2012, 12:37 PM   #1
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Default Horn kris hilts

Is it just my ignorance or else, but I do not seem to remember many hilts made of buffalo horn.
Gardner mentions this material only re. K. Bahari.
Is it true? How specific is it?
Is it a sign of a recent production?
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Old 6th May 2012, 04:06 PM   #2
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Hello Ariel,

I have in my collection horn hilts from Java, Bali and Sumatra and have seen horn hilts from Sulawesi, all old or antique.

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Old 6th May 2012, 04:43 PM   #3
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Some examples from my collection.

First two are from Java, third one from Bali, fourth from Sumatra (Minankabau), fitfth from Peninsula and the last again from Sumatra (again Minangkabau).

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Old 6th May 2012, 07:54 PM   #4
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these are also old one's made of buffalo horn
(the Panjang has also the Warangka of horn)
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Some examples from my collection.

First two are from Java, third one from Bali, fourth from Sumatra (Minankabau), fitfth from Peninsula and the last again from Sumatra (again Minangkabau).

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Detlef
Hello Detlef,

Based on these pictures, I would guess the first 2 from java to be wood. (not horn)

Imho, buffalohorn hilts are most of the time found on "outer Island" type keris.
I have this example in my collection.


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Old 6th May 2012, 09:49 PM   #6
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Hello Detlef,

Based on these pictures, I would guess the first 2 from java to be wood. (not horn)
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Hello Willem,

I every time was sure about the material but when I look at the pictures I get doubts. Will test them and post the result here.

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Old 7th May 2012, 09:35 AM   #7
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Some of the hilts shown appear recently made.
Attached are 3 specimens from my collection and made from black horn, 2 from Sumatra and one from Bali (with ivory inserts).
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