Lance head/ spear point for ID

asomotif · 8th September 2010, 01:11 AM

I bought this large lance head.

The blade is 34 cms long, 6,5 cms broad at the widest point and 1,4 cms thick at the base. The tang is

The tang is square, but with a twisted part.
The shaft is dark heavy hard wood with a more or less hair like structure.
Palm wood ?

Can anyone help me with ID on this one ?
Also I would like to know what the metal fitting must have looked like.

Thanks and best regards,
Willem

Battara · 8th September 2010, 01:51 AM

What a weird piece?

I like it, but weird. The form throws me, but the laminations look Indonesian.

asomotif · 8th September 2010, 08:36 PM

Thanks Battara for the reaction.

Considering it looks weird to you means that I can rule out Philipine/Moro origin ?

The holes in the blade remind of Borneo blades that sometimes have holes near the base.
But those blades are much simpler. often not laminated.
Any ideas ?

Thanks and best regards,
Willem

Maurice · 8th September 2010, 09:13 PM

Hi Willem,

I don't know about this lance head.
But I have seen the images of the spears from the collection of Thorkild Moller, who had collected pieces from Borneo which were confiscated in the early '20's.
And believe me, there were awesome pieces, also with pamor if I recall it rightly...

Maurice

Henk · 8th September 2010, 11:25 PM

Willem,

Very nice. I think it is javanese. I would say a tombak or pike.
I found a picture on the internet. I think it should look like this one.

asomotif · 9th September 2010, 12:38 AM

Hello Henk,

Thanks for your input.
But javanese with the square tang and also this rather large size.
The 34 cms is excluding the tang.

I have not seen javanese tombak in such style and size. (yet)

Best regards,
Willem

8th September 2010, 01:11 AM	#1
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,225	Lance head/ spear point for ID I bought this large lance head. The blade is 34 cms long, 6,5 cms broad at the widest point and 1,4 cms thick at the base. The tang is The tang is square, but with a twisted part. The shaft is dark heavy hard wood with a more or less hair like structure. Palm wood ? Can anyone help me with ID on this one ? Also I would like to know what the metal fitting must have looked like. Thanks and best regards, Willem Attached Images

8th September 2010, 11:25 PM	#5
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Willem, Very nice. I think it is javanese. I would say a tombak or pike. I found a picture on the internet. I think it should look like this one. Attached Images

8th September 2010, 01:51 AM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,226	What a weird piece? I like it, but weird. The form throws me, but the laminations look Indonesian.

8th September 2010, 08:36 PM	#3
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,225	Thanks Battara for the reaction. Considering it looks weird to you means that I can rule out Philipine/Moro origin ? The holes in the blade remind of Borneo blades that sometimes have holes near the base. But those blades are much simpler. often not laminated. Any ideas ? Thanks and best regards, Willem

8th September 2010, 09:13 PM	#4
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,349	Hi Willem, I don't know about this lance head. But I have seen the images of the spears from the collection of Thorkild Moller, who had collected pieces from Borneo which were confiscated in the early '20's. And believe me, there were awesome pieces, also with pamor if I recall it rightly... Maurice

9th September 2010, 12:38 AM	#6
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,225	Hello Henk, Thanks for your input. But javanese with the square tang and also this rather large size. The 34 cms is excluding the tang. I have not seen javanese tombak in such style and size. (yet) Best regards, Willem