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Old 29th April 2009, 08:18 PM   #1
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I own a beautiful swedish naval saber, possible late 18th or early 19th C. It has both medium and fine size grip wires. The thin ones are all fracturing at the contact area with the back-strap. I don't want to remove/replace them, but when I grab its grip, I fel them crumbling or being bent out of place. I was thinking of a drop of crazy-glue at the fracture site to stabilize and fix them .

Any suggestions?

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Old 29th April 2009, 08:30 PM   #2
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I don't have any suggestions to fully fix this but I have found over time that the wire, particuarly the fine ones do break. In one instance with success I placed the sword in a vice (gently) with the back strap facing down, proceeded to place some glue under the backstrap where the wire goes through and then pushed the broken fine wire into the groove where the glue was, held it for a couple of minutes and good as new and not seen to detract from the beauty of the piece.
The other suggestion I could make is, no matter how much you enjoy playing naked pirates in your living room, just leave the sword alone and appreciate it from afar, look but do not touch!!!

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Old 29th April 2009, 08:56 PM   #3
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Ouch! Naked pirates and swords seem to me an injudicious, and potentially painful combination, to put it mildly.

Thanks for the pointer, it does have lots of fractured thin wires. And rest assured, I seldom grab the saber by its grip.

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I don't have any suggestions to fully fix this but I have found over time that the wire, particuarly the fine ones do break. In one instance with success I placed the sword in a vice (gently) with the back strap facing down, proceeded to place some glue under the backstrap where the wire goes through and then pushed the broken fine wire into the groove where the glue was, held it for a couple of minutes and good as new and not seen to detract from the beauty of the piece.
The other suggestion I could make is, no matter how much you enjoy playing naked pirates in your living room, just leave the sword alone and appreciate it from afar, look but do not touch!!!

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Old 29th April 2009, 09:15 PM   #4
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Depending on how bad the damage? If the wire is simply broken then you could find somebody like a jeweller who has one of these-

http://www.ottofrei.com/store/produc...oductid=17294-

Just micro arc welding really. They should be able to fix the wire. I find it a very handy tool. Not to be used as a hobby thing really.
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Old 12th June 2009, 06:52 PM   #5
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Haven't found any so far...



What do you guys think about using little beads of glue to hold them in place?

Any suggestions on this, or the type of glue?

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Depending on how bad the damage? If the wire is simply broken then you could find somebody like a jeweller who has one of these-

http://www.ottofrei.com/store/produc...oductid=17294-

Just micro arc welding really. They should be able to fix the wire. I find it a very handy tool. Not to be used as a hobby thing really.
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Old 12th June 2009, 07:00 PM   #6
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I (epoxy) glue mine.
Maybe a crime, collector wise, but an endless solution.
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