Moro kris for comment

xasterix · 24th April 2024, 03:31 PM

Greetings everyone:

I'm lucky to have chanced upon this piece- so far the longest twistcore Moro kris I've encountered (23in blade length, 28in overall), also the heaviest (0.75kg). It's also a nice surprise that it's not as "flexible" or thin-bladed as the other twistcore krises I've had (I could bend the other blades easily with my knee or even hands). This one is rigid, similar to the rigid blade build of late 1800s heavy battle krises. I'm guessing it's two twisted bars at the center, and two non-twisted bars at the outer (correct me if I'm wrong).

A Malay guru told me the pattern is similar to "cindai pamor" among the Malays, and "kurisi aslo" among the Bugis. I'm not familiar with keris stuff, but would be interested in what other forum members think of this assessment. I've only used vinegar to do a light etch.

TIA!

Sajen · 24th April 2024, 09:47 PM

Hello Xas,

A beautiful blade, congrats! Are you going to give it back at least one asang asang and the handle the cord?

Regards,
Detlef

kai · 25th April 2024, 12:11 AM

Hello Ray,

Thanks for showing your latest beauty! I agree it seems to be late 19th century or around the turn of the century.

All "twistcore" Moro kris I've seen exhibit no real twist core: They have the twisted bars sandwiched on top of the central steel core (independently on each side of the blade); BTW, this 3-layer construction is also typical for keris from other regions with this pamor.

Regards,
Kai

xasterix · 25th April 2024, 04:22 AM

Thanks for the kind words Detlef and Kai!

Detlef, I tried fitting several "extra" asang-asang I have here, but they're all too slim for the blade- the gangya on this one is unnaturally thick. So no asang-asang yet, until I get one that's thicc enough!

The hilt is also more robust than most I've encountered; I like its bare feel and fits my hand exactly already, so I'm keeping it that way.

Kai, thanks for that really informative bit about the blade build of "twistcore" Moro krises and Malay keris!

milandro · 25th April 2024, 07:43 AM

sorry, do I see this correctly that the patterned part is two thin sheet applied on the two sides?

Sajen · 25th April 2024, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milandro

sorry, do I see this correctly that the patterned part is two thin sheet applied on the two sides?

Yes, when you want to describe it like this.

24th April 2024, 03:31 PM	#1
xasterix Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 653	Moro kris for comment Greetings everyone: I'm lucky to have chanced upon this piece- so far the longest twistcore Moro kris I've encountered (23in blade length, 28in overall), also the heaviest (0.75kg). It's also a nice surprise that it's not as "flexible" or thin-bladed as the other twistcore krises I've had (I could bend the other blades easily with my knee or even hands). This one is rigid, similar to the rigid blade build of late 1800s heavy battle krises. I'm guessing it's two twisted bars at the center, and two non-twisted bars at the outer (correct me if I'm wrong). A Malay guru told me the pattern is similar to "cindai pamor" among the Malays, and "kurisi aslo" among the Bugis. I'm not familiar with keris stuff, but would be interested in what other forum members think of this assessment. I've only used vinegar to do a light etch. TIA! Attached Images

24th April 2024, 09:47 PM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,764	Hello Xas, A beautiful blade, congrats! Are you going to give it back at least one asang asang and the handle the cord? Regards, Detlef

25th April 2024, 12:11 AM	#3
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,254	Hello Ray, Thanks for showing your latest beauty! I agree it seems to be late 19th century or around the turn of the century. All "twistcore" Moro kris I've seen exhibit no real twist core: They have the twisted bars sandwiched on top of the central steel core (independently on each side of the blade); BTW, this 3-layer construction is also typical for keris from other regions with this pamor. Regards, Kai

25th April 2024, 04:22 AM	#4
xasterix Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 653	Thanks for the kind words Detlef and Kai! Detlef, I tried fitting several "extra" asang-asang I have here, but they're all too slim for the blade- the gangya on this one is unnaturally thick. So no asang-asang yet, until I get one that's thicc enough! The hilt is also more robust than most I've encountered; I like its bare feel and fits my hand exactly already, so I'm keeping it that way. Kai, thanks for that really informative bit about the blade build of "twistcore" Moro krises and Malay keris!

25th April 2024, 07:43 AM	#5
milandro Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: Netherlands Posts: 474	sorry, do I see this correctly that the patterned part is two thin sheet applied on the two sides?