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Any forum members seen this type of hilt before? Does the carving on the
scabbard give any clues? |
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Kino, aren't you going to show us the blade?
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yes and yes
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Kino:
We need to see this sword out of the sheath. The scabbard looks Visayan to me, similar to the style of scabbard found on the deity hilted swords from Panay -- an older style with the wooden block suspension system (I believe Zel has said this style dates to pre-1900). The carving on the scabbard, with its repeated four leaf flower design, is similar to that seen on scabbards of knives and swords coming from the Eastern Visayas (Samar, Leyte) but I'm not sure if it is a common motif in the Western Visayas. The carved hilt is a form that I have not seen previously (appears to be a flower form, or perhaps a variant of naga). The octagonal ferrule and handle are consistent with a Panay/Negros (Western Visayas) origin. The irregularly shaped disk guard (is it horn or wood?) also suggests Western Visayas. When we see the blade I would expect it to have the usual chisel-ground edge seen on most Visayan swords and knives. Ian. |
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Yes, Kino, you do see similar scabbards in that photo
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and.... survey says.... "it's a sundang!!!"
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I will post a photo of the blade on Friday, that is when I will take delivery.
Zel, I see similar scabbard in the group photo of your cutting test blades. |
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Ian, thanks for the information. It does have that flower/naga carving on the hilt. You were correct on the blade, it's chisel ground. The guard is Carabao horn.
VVV, it is on the small side. The overall length is 22.5 in., blade is 16.5 in. Very similar scabbards. The 3rd photo is of a Naga hilt on a Bangkung, just for comparison. |
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LOLZ.....nice
![]() I suspected a sanduko but instead we have a talibong with a pueo bulaklak. btw...the hanger block does not determine age, but rather point of origin. |
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Thank you, Zel. Any thoughts on origin? |
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