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Completely outside my sphere of collecting.
I am going to guess that this is a Persian ( lion on blade ) watered blade, shamshir. I have just mildly cleaned one section of the blade to show the lion and the pattern. I would appreciate any information from the experts. Thanks Roy |
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It looks like private purchase British Mameluke sword. Handle looks like bone.
Indian army military? |
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See http://auctionsimperial.com/om-the-p...lah/?locale=en (The article is expertly written by Oliver Pinchot)...for a sold item of a year ago and note the Persian Lion below~
See also http://www.vikingsword.com/ethsword/shamshir/ |
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![]() The hilt looks like Mameluke indeed. |
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It is certainly a Persian shamshir.
The blade is inscribed in the upper cartouche, ABBAS SHAH BANDE-YE VILAYET, which was the title adopted by Shah Abbas I (r. 1588-1629) and used by shahs of Iran thereafter. The lower cartouche, depicting a lion, also bears the name ASSAD. This is a transitional signature discussed in my article, which Ibrahim kindly cited. The wootz pattern is evident in the photos. The guard is original. Though corroded, fine chiseling is evident. The grips are ivory, in Mamluk style, but may be Persian work as well. On cursory examination, it probably dates to the second half of the 18th or beginning of the 19th century. |
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Wow Oliver,
great description! Agree with you and Marius about wootz, clearly visible. Agree also that the handle scales are from ivory as well that the guard would look beautiful after a very careful cleaning. It's a very nice sword which need a good and careful restoration. Regards, Detlef |
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Not so sure about the rather fresh looking file marks on the handle. I think it has been through repair restoration and replacement.
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Thanks for the information everyone. As I said, not my sphere of collecting so all of this is very helpfull.
I had not thought that the grips are ivory as I could not see any obvious schreger lines. One of the new photos, of the end of the pommel does look more like ivory now I have looked more closely. Tim, I cannot account for the file marks, but if you look at the new photos, I do not think anything about the hilt could be called "fresh" I don't think the grips have been off for a while. If it has been restored and replaced it looks as though it was a good while ago. Thanks again Roy |
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Not being the best photographer in the world, these are the best that I can manage since I broke my wide angle lens recently.
You can see the blade gets darker where I have not done any cleaning. Hope they are of some help regards Roy |
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I wouldn't clean it, just oil.
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![]() Regards, Detlef |
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