A double handed sword

francantolin · 28th September 2022, 09:32 PM

Hello dear members,
I wanted to ask your opinion about this huge sword,
I think it is a reproduction of an antique 15th-16th model of two handed sword and I bought it with this description and correct price but , your precious help is needed:

It was sold as a 18th-19th century reproduction
But : the global shape of the blade is too perfect,
So maybe it is just a 20th repro model ?

On another angle:
the blade seems not recent and really well made.
( just a mark/stamp is missing....)

The pommel seems old ( maybe Saxon origin as Merenti illustrated in his post about saxon arms )

the guard and leather, I don't know,
I found look like model said to be late 19th century reproduction and other good ones.....

I'm not specialist at all in this area and every comment is welcomed.
Kind regards

francantolin · 28th September 2022, 09:37 PM

The dimensions are
163cm/64 inches long for 3,6 kg
A surprising sharp and flexible blade.
Kind regards

kronckew · 29th September 2022, 03:31 PM

What is the weight? Point of balance (POB) along the blade?

The key word you used was 'flexible'. Victorian/modern repros tend to be overweight overly stiff and non-distal tapered, and have the weight too far forward (POB). Flexible, light weight is a GOOD thing. Grip may have been replaced at some point. Not terrible for it tho. Zweihänders and bearing swords are not in my area, so i'm sure others can get more detailed.

francantolin · 29th September 2022, 06:36 PM

Thank's a lot Kronckew for you message,

I wrote the total size ans weight :
163cm/64 inches long for 3,6kg/7,94 pounds.

Here some others measures;

-Handle 36cm with pommel but without guard.

-Quillons oversized for battle I think: 48cm long

- Blade 125cm overall , massive unsharpeded for the first 26cm.

Point of balance 20cm on blade after the guard ( cf picture ) I don't know if it's good or not, not easy to see how really landsknecht used it efficiently...

francantolin · 29th September 2022, 06:42 PM

The other side of the pommel ( same ''line'' ) and other pics...

Must be what is called a presentation-parade sword ( 19th century must be right )
But had these sword sharp-slicers edge ??

Anyway a nice baby toy

Kind regards

francantolin · 30th September 2022, 07:57 PM

Hello,

Sorry on avance for purists,

I had found the brown rusty patina too homogenuous and ''looking a little fake''
so I had three hours free time and could not resist to sand it with 1000 grain sandpaper /WD40...

For me, really better like that !

Blade shows old black rust spots
( and the end of the tip would be a little longer initially...)

28th September 2022, 09:32 PM	#1
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 877	A double handed sword Hello dear members, I wanted to ask your opinion about this huge sword, I think it is a reproduction of an antique 15th-16th model of two handed sword and I bought it with this description and correct price but , your precious help is needed: It was sold as a 18th-19th century reproduction But : the global shape of the blade is too perfect, So maybe it is just a 20th repro model ? On another angle: the blade seems not recent and really well made. ( just a mark/stamp is missing....) The pommel seems old ( maybe Saxon origin as Merenti illustrated in his post about saxon arms ) the guard and leather, I don't know, I found look like model said to be late 19th century reproduction and other good ones..... I'm not specialist at all in this area and every comment is welcomed. Kind regards Attached Images

28th September 2022, 09:37 PM	#2
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 877	The dimensions are 163cm/64 inches long for 3,6 kg A surprising sharp and flexible blade. Kind regards Attached Images

29th September 2022, 06:36 PM	#4
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 877	Thank's a lot Kronckew for you message, I wrote the total size ans weight : 163cm/64 inches long for 3,6kg/7,94 pounds. Here some others measures; -Handle 36cm with pommel but without guard. -Quillons oversized for battle I think: 48cm long - Blade 125cm overall , massive unsharpeded for the first 26cm. Point of balance 20cm on blade after the guard ( cf picture ) I don't know if it's good or not, not easy to see how really landsknecht used it efficiently... Attached Images

29th September 2022, 06:42 PM	#5
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 877	The other side of the pommel ( same ''line'' ) and other pics... Must be what is called a presentation-parade sword ( 19th century must be right ) But had these sword sharp-slicers edge ?? Anyway a nice baby toy Kind regards Attached Images

30th September 2022, 07:57 PM	#6
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 877	Hello, Sorry on avance for purists, I had found the brown rusty patina too homogenuous and ''looking a little fake'' so I had three hours free time and could not resist to sand it with 1000 grain sandpaper /WD40... For me, really better like that ! Blade shows old black rust spots ( and the end of the tip would be a little longer initially...) Attached Images

29th September 2022, 03:31 PM	#3
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,183	What is the weight? Point of balance (POB) along the blade? The key word you used was 'flexible'. Victorian/modern repros tend to be overweight overly stiff and non-distal tapered, and have the weight too far forward (POB). Flexible, light weight is a GOOD thing. Grip may have been replaced at some point. Not terrible for it tho. Zweihänders and bearing swords are not in my area, so i'm sure others can get more detailed.