Stunning wootz Kard

[TimW]

hey all

I just received an extremely nice and huge kard. The blade is approx 25 cm long, has a hollow grind (with a razor thin edge) and is made of an very nice Wootz. I just gave it a quich degrease / etch in ferrochloride and the most magnificent pattern popped out. The spine tapers from 8 mm at the base to a needle fine point. The handle (12 cm) is elephant ivory and the semi integral guard sports very detailed and very intricate floral pattern koftgari. It's one of the nicest pieces of wootz I've seen since long. Obtained it via Ebay like site (for an extremely stupid price).

Enjoy!

Tim


PS: the pictures just give a glimpse. I'll try to take better pics in daylight.

[TimW]

ADMIN: how can I move this post to the etnographic area?

[Richard Furrer]

Very good looking piece. It appears someone touched it to a modern belt sander which is a bit of a pity.
I like the chips int he edge...hard blade.

Ric

[Dom]

Hi Tim
you are a damned lucky guy
I love those type of knife, specially with a beautiful "Johar" blade, and fantastic ivory handle
and I don't mention the matter about the ridiculous price
my most sincere congratulations

all the best

à +

Dom

[Chris Evans]

Richard,

Originally Posted by Richard Furrer

I like the chips int he edge...hard blade.Ric

Does not seem as if the edge has been quench hardened. So how hard do you estimate it to be?

Cheers
Chris

[TimW]

I don't have the feeling that the blade has been reground / ruined on a belt grinder. The grinding is very professional / symmetric and is obviously doen with lots of skill (it looks much more 'disturbing on picture than in reality). I have the feeling that it's an old grind / done on a stone wheel.

The edge itself is very thin (almost razor - like) / so also very fragile.

[Lew]

Tim

Nice find but the edge was thinned out on some type of grinder and to me looks more recent than not .

[Richard Furrer]

Originally Posted by TimW

I don't have the feeling that the blade has been reground / ruined on a belt grinder.

I did not say ruined Tim, but leaving evidence of the abrasive size is not something usually done on blades of this quality. Such things are done more recently...in my opinion.

Ric

[Richard Furrer]

Originally Posted by Chris Evans

Richard,



Does not seem as if the edge has been quench hardened. So how hard do you estimate it to be?

Cheers
Chris

Impossible to tell without measuring on a machine.
As an indication of variety I suggest these two videos taken in Jodhpur, India. The two doing the testing are from The Wallace Collection of London and I'm the bearded one standing behind them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyGXTlEAaAY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMwZWp0b5kE

Generally speaking the matrix (dark areas)will deform before a chip forms...this is the nature of pearlite, but when you quench and turn the pearlite to martensite and do not reheat enough to temper that hardness then chips are more likely. The white bands are cementite and largely unchanged from heat treatment...they are very hard indeed...harder than martensite.

I have held some blades that, after testing, I was very careful setting the blade down...they were so hard I have no idea how they lasted hundreds of years. I would have thought a wing of a butterfly would shatter the edge.
Much to learn.

Ric

[Chris Evans]

Richard,

Thanks for those links and your explanation.

Cheers
Chris