Ethnographic Arms & Armour
 

Go Back   Ethnographic Arms & Armour > Discussion Forums > Ethnographic Weapons
FAQ Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 2nd August 2009, 10:02 AM   #1
katana
Member
 
katana's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Kent
Posts: 2,653
Default Kaskara for Comment.

Hi,
'picked this up' today. A Kaskara ...the hilt seems to white metal ...the pommel and banding (just before it) seems older than the handle and wiring. (re-hilted probably.) Blade still relatively sharp, single fuller with faint etching which looks to a some sort of pattern with some foliage.

Blade marked with "W. Clauberg Solingen" which is slightly worn, under langet. Under the other langet is a standing knight marking. Out of a number of Kaskara I have handled, this seems to be one of the 'better balanced' versions. Is this a good example. I am assuming the blade is mid 19th C and the fullers look forged.

Please any information or comments gratefully recieved

Thank you
David

.
Attached Images
         
katana is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd August 2009, 11:56 AM   #2
Lew
(deceased)
 
Lew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: East Coast USA
Posts: 3,191
Default

Very nice sword never saw one with that type of pommel.

Congrats
Lew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd August 2009, 12:05 PM   #3
katana
Member
 
katana's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Kent
Posts: 2,653
Default

Thanks Lew ,
would you have any idea as to the region / tribe that this sword may have originated ?

Regards David
katana is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd August 2009, 12:14 PM   #4
Atlantia
Member
 
Atlantia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: The Sharp end
Posts: 2,928
Default

Very Very nice David, Very interesting handle and a rather fine looking blade!
Congratulations. I'd love that one myself.
Atlantia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd August 2009, 01:11 PM   #5
colin henshaw
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,430
Default

A fine kaskara - never seen that type of pommel before.

Regards
colin henshaw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd August 2009, 02:46 PM   #6
Jim McDougall
Arms Historian
 
Jim McDougall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Route 66
Posts: 9,941
Default

Wow, nicely done David!
This is a high end piece I would say, from Darfur. It is really unlikely to say what tribes or exact regions at this point, but obviously the Fur are predominant. I will check notes further later tonight, wagons west right now, Fort Stockton Texas in about 350 miles

From what I recall Clauberg was one of the Solingen makers supplying cavalry sabre blades to the U.S. mid 19th century until after Civil War.

It seems I have seen the very decorative pommel in the Kendall notes, and the lozenge pattern of the grip is Darfur, and is found in the Reed article.

All the best,
Jim
Jim McDougall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd August 2009, 06:21 PM   #7
katana
Member
 
katana's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Kent
Posts: 2,653
Default

Thank you Gene, Colin and Jim ,
I am very pleased with it....and it was quite cheap I bought this from, of all places, a 'boot fair' .....for our non Brits....this is where you load your car with unwanted items, drive to a muddy field with other 'car booters' , set up a stall, wait for the 'customers' and sell your 'wares'.

Imagine my surprise to see this on display .....bearing in mind the current knife/sword laws in the UK

A quick unsuccessful haggle, had me walking around the boot fair without the sword.....left it for around 1 hour....went back with my final offer (well not really , but he believed it was)... which was accepted. I got the distinct impression, that comments by others about the legality of sword sales ... worried the seller....and was very much to my advantage

Very much looking forward to further comments from the books of the 'Wandering Librarian' Thanks Jim

Kind Regards David
katana is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd August 2009, 06:31 PM   #8
Atlantia
Member
 
Atlantia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: The Sharp end
Posts: 2,928
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by katana
Thank you Gene, Colin and Jim ,
I am very pleased with it....and it was quite cheap I bought this from, of all places, a 'boot fair' .....for our non Brits....this is where you load your car with unwanted items, drive to a muddy field with other 'car booters' , set up a stall, wait for the 'customers' and sell your 'wares'.

Imagine my surprise to see this on display .....bearing in mind the current knife/sword laws in the UK

A quick unsuccessful haggle, had me walking around the boot fair without the sword.....left it for around 1 hour....went back with my final offer (well not really , but he believed it was)... which was accepted. I got the distinct impression, that comments by others about the legality of sword sales ... worried the seller....and was very much to my advantage

Very much looking forward to further comments from the books of the 'Wandering Librarian' Thanks Jim

Kind Regards David
Jeez you were lucky mate! I can't believe you went off and came back an hour later and it was still there????
OMG!
Atlantia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd August 2009, 07:10 PM   #9
katana
Member
 
katana's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Kent
Posts: 2,653
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Atlantia
Jeez you were lucky mate! I can't believe you went off and came back an hour later and it was still there????
OMG!
I imagine that few would know it was a 'legitimate' sword, I expect many thought it was a Chinese or Pakistan 'repo' . I didn't notice the makers stamp, till after I had bought it and got it home (due to dirt/rust) .....if I had..... my 60 minutes may have been reduced to 60 seconds

Best
David
katana is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:09 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Posts are regarded as being copyrighted by their authors and the act of posting material is deemed to be a granting of an irrevocable nonexclusive license for display here.