Pair of Central African knives

wildwolberine · 29th September 2023, 04:00 AM

Hoping someone can help me pin down an origin for these two African knives. The larger piece with the wood handle is much thicker/more finely made. The other piece may be a currency blade or parade item? I know I’ve seen other examples but the region/tribal affiliation escapes me and wouldn’t know what keywords to use to search the database.

Changdao · 29th September 2023, 02:08 PM

Hello. As far as I know, the left piece is a typical Banda throwing knife. The early ones were fully functional, and very aerodinamic objets made for war. During the XXth century less functional versions (e.g. without edges) were made and their purpose shifted to a more ritualistic one.

The right piece looks to me like it is from the Yakoma or the Ngbandi, but I'm less sure about this one.

Araña_del_Sol · 30th September 2023, 12:12 AM

Hi, the smaller one is a crownless throwing knife of the Banda people, Banda throwing knives seem to all be referred to as "Ondo" although there is a considerable amount of diversity among them. The longer piece is a type of sickle sword which, as Changdao suggested, may be Ngbandi in origin in which case it would be called "Bero" though other neighboring people groups could have produced/used this variety as well.

-ADS

Sajen · 1st October 2023, 01:52 PM

Yes, the one on the right is a "bero" or "mambeli", attributed to the Ngombe, Doko, Poto, Budja and Ngbandi from the Congo.
Compare "panga na visu", page 132, piece 289.

29th September 2023, 04:00 AM	#1
wildwolberine Member Join Date: May 2023 Location: San Antonio Posts: 110	Pair of Central African knives Hoping someone can help me pin down an origin for these two African knives. The larger piece with the wood handle is much thicker/more finely made. The other piece may be a currency blade or parade item? I know I’ve seen other examples but the region/tribal affiliation escapes me and wouldn’t know what keywords to use to search the database. Attached Images

29th September 2023, 02:08 PM	#2
Changdao Member Join Date: Jan 2023 Location: Spain Posts: 29	Hello. As far as I know, the left piece is a typical Banda throwing knife. The early ones were fully functional, and very aerodinamic objets made for war. During the XXth century less functional versions (e.g. without edges) were made and their purpose shifted to a more ritualistic one. The right piece looks to me like it is from the Yakoma or the Ngbandi, but I'm less sure about this one. Last edited by Changdao; 29th September 2023 at 04:47 PM.

30th September 2023, 12:12 AM	#3
Araña_del_Sol Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 47	Hi, the smaller one is a crownless throwing knife of the Banda people, Banda throwing knives seem to all be referred to as "Ondo" although there is a considerable amount of diversity among them. The longer piece is a type of sickle sword which, as Changdao suggested, may be Ngbandi in origin in which case it would be called "Bero" though other neighboring people groups could have produced/used this variety as well. -ADS

1st October 2023, 01:52 PM	#4
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,781	Yes, the one on the right is a "bero" or "mambeli", attributed to the Ngombe, Doko, Poto, Budja and Ngbandi from the Congo. Compare "panga na visu", page 132, piece 289.