Batak Sabre ?

Rick · 5th December 2013, 03:58 AM

I don't know why these get no love .

Anyway, now I have two .

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VERY-UNUSUAL...p2047675.l2557

More pictures when it arrives .

RSWORD · 5th December 2013, 12:33 PM

Congratulations Rick. I think you made a nice score. I also believe the blade might be a good pattern weld or even possibly wootz. Take a good close look in some good sunlight because it has that appearance in the pictures provided.

CharlesS · 5th December 2013, 05:08 PM

This is a piso podang, and quite a nice example of the rarer eagle hilt. I am especially intrigued by the script on the blade.

Though piso podangs are classically associated with the Battak, I would not necessarily attribute this one to them. Trade allowed these blades to be seen throughout the Indonesian archipelago and into the Malay peninsula.

These blade type seems to be especially popular on the eagle hilts. I would not be surprised to find a pattern welded blade, but would be surprised to find wootz on this particular type.

Rick · 5th December 2013, 05:20 PM

Thanks for the comments .
This looks like a good blade; not sure whether it will be wootz; but if it is anything like the blade on the example I already own it will be well tempered with a nice hardened working edge .

Charles, you definitely get around more than I do; this is only the third example of this sword that I have ever seen .

I'm very doubtful that the script is Arabic; it reminds me more of Batak
phonetic script .
Wherever it originated I'm glad to have won it .

CharlesS · 5th December 2013, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

Thanks for the comments .
This looks like a good blade; not sure whether it will be wootz; but if it is anything like the blade on the example I already own it will be well tempered with a nice hardened working edge .

Charles, you definitely get around more than I do; this is only the third example of this sword that I have ever seen .

I'm very doubtful that the script is Arabic; it reminds me more of Batak
phonetic script .
Wherever it originated I'm glad to have won it .

I am betting this is what you will find, if not pattern welded. Please post when you have it and have had a chance to etch it.

Rick · 5th December 2013, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlesS

I am betting this is what you will find, if not pattern welded. Please post when you have it and have had a chance to etch it.

Will do, absolutely .

I tried a vinegar etch on my present example; it didn't come up as pattern welded; it looked more like monosteel .

Still, that sword is a good 'cutter' .

VANDOO · 5th December 2013, 05:52 PM

A NICE CATCH!

I AGREE WITH CHARLES THE PISO PODANG SELDOM HAS ANY WRITING ON IT AND THE EAGLE HEAD IS SELDOM SEEN. THE ORIGIN OF THESE SWORDS STILL SEEMS TO BE LARGELY UNKNOWN BUT LARGE NUMBERS OF THEM BECAME AVAILABLE AND POPULAR THRU OUT THE REGION. WHEN THIS HAPPENED AND WHERE THE SWORDS CAME FROM OR WHO THE TRADERS BRINGING THEM INTO THE AREA IS UNKNOWN TO ME. I ALWAYS WAS REMINDED OF INDIAN SWORDS BY THEIR FORM AND HANDLE.

David R · 5th December 2013, 06:32 PM

A very nice win indeed.

manteris1 · 5th December 2013, 05:08 PM

good score, i think rick is right..................jimmy

5th December 2013, 03:58 AM	#1
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Batak Sabre ? I don't know why these get no love . Anyway, now I have two . http://www.ebay.com/itm/VERY-UNUSUAL...p2047675.l2557 More pictures when it arrives .

5th December 2013, 05:08 PM	#3
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,857	This is a piso podang, and quite a nice example of the rarer eagle hilt. I am especially intrigued by the script on the blade. Though piso podangs are classically associated with the Battak, I would not necessarily attribute this one to them. Trade allowed these blades to be seen throughout the Indonesian archipelago and into the Malay peninsula. These blade type seems to be especially popular on the eagle hilts. I would not be surprised to find a pattern welded blade, but would be surprised to find wootz on this particular type. Last edited by CharlesS; 5th December 2013 at 11:11 PM.

5th December 2013, 12:33 PM	#2
RSWORD Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,084	Congratulations Rick. I think you made a nice score. I also believe the blade might be a good pattern weld or even possibly wootz. Take a good close look in some good sunlight because it has that appearance in the pictures provided.

5th December 2013, 05:20 PM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Thanks for the comments . This looks like a good blade; not sure whether it will be wootz; but if it is anything like the blade on the example I already own it will be well tempered with a nice hardened working edge . Charles, you definitely get around more than I do; this is only the third example of this sword that I have ever seen . I'm very doubtful that the script is Arabic; it reminds me more of Batak phonetic script . Wherever it originated I'm glad to have won it .

5th December 2013, 05:52 PM	#7
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	A NICE CATCH! I AGREE WITH CHARLES THE PISO PODANG SELDOM HAS ANY WRITING ON IT AND THE EAGLE HEAD IS SELDOM SEEN. THE ORIGIN OF THESE SWORDS STILL SEEMS TO BE LARGELY UNKNOWN BUT LARGE NUMBERS OF THEM BECAME AVAILABLE AND POPULAR THRU OUT THE REGION. WHEN THIS HAPPENED AND WHERE THE SWORDS CAME FROM OR WHO THE TRADERS BRINGING THEM INTO THE AREA IS UNKNOWN TO ME. I ALWAYS WAS REMINDED OF INDIAN SWORDS BY THEIR FORM AND HANDLE.

5th December 2013, 06:32 PM	#8
David R Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,079	A very nice win indeed.

5th December 2013, 05:08 PM	#9
manteris1 Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 114	good score, i think rick is right..................jimmy