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Hello dear members,
I wanted to ask you some questions to identifiy this strange sword: I think it's a real old sword,the hilt has an italian storta shape but the blade is really strange: large and short and is really flat. Is it an italian item ( medieval ? how old ?? ) Could it be an executioneer's sword ? Has the blade been shortened ? Or a later change ?? Does someone know the symbol-marks and the B V I'll post later other pictures of the blade Kind regards |
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B V or P V mark for the thin blade...
looks a little like a ''langue de boeuf'' blade but hasn't the v shape cut/ shortened blade ? Kind regards |
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Very nice item!! No expert, but the hilt style, pommel and quillons nearly exactly match those found on Italian falchions from the 17th c. It might be a cut-down blade, but you are right that executioner's types had rounded tips, so...
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Maybe a cut down version of this type of blade. (Italian, late XVth - early XVIth century. The grip is a replacement, and the fittings may or may not be original.)
How is the cross section at the tip ? Is there a regular distal taper ? |
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It looks like a typical Venetian storta grip, 16-17thC. The blade is slightly unusual shape but obviously for cutting rather than thrusting. I have seen a German felddegen/haudegen with a completely rounded tip so not that strange. I have also seen a Styrian dussack with very similar metal condition and markings (eye lash, etc) which was end 16thC. It seems there’s a little space on the ricasso on which to lay the index finger to improve the grip and balance, which would argue for a fighting sword.
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Hello,
Really thank you all for your precious comments !!! I put some other pictures, for the cross section ( I don't know if I have understood everything , my english is not that good ! ![]() it is not a diamond section, it's almost flat but a little larger in the center looks like a large ham slicer - carpaccio knife blade ![]() An old soldier's carpaccio maker sword ? ![]() For the little space on the ricasso, they used it like like that ? I saw this little space on old swords and wondered why they were made like that ( Thank's !!) I forgot to mention the size: 70cm long for 850 grams It seems not bad balanced, ''fits'' good in the hand so maybe not shorted too much... |
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