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Old 21st November 2011, 09:30 PM   #1
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Firstly I need to express my huge gratitude to my friend Jim McDougall who not only works very hard to make these forums a welcoming and informative place but also uses his valuable 'free time' to spend literally hours researching this sword for me.

Jim! You are a:
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Old 21st November 2011, 09:34 PM   #2
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Right! So now to business.
Here is my latest sword.
Some stats, blade 32", overall 38". Point of balance 3-1/2" down the blade. Balance is beautiful.
I'm just going to post pictures and let Jim (if he wouldn't mind) tell you about what he has found for me.
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Old 21st November 2011, 10:08 PM   #3
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... I'm just going to post pictures and let Jim (if he wouldn't mind) tell you about what he has found for me.
So we can't have a guess before that !

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Old 21st November 2011, 09:53 PM   #4
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Firstly I need to express my huge gratitude to my friend Jim McDougall who not only works very hard to make these forums a welcoming and informative place but also uses his valuable 'free time' to spend literally hours researching this sword for me.
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Hi Gene,

You took the words right out of my mouth: our friend Jim not only is the Good and Guiding Spirit of our forum but also and doubtlessly our most widely read professor and perhaps the only one to be eager enough to try to do his best and work his way into the strangest topics to be discussed here!
Thank you so much, Jim!!! You are not just our star but one of the very few true warriors around!!!

Best,
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Hi Gene,

In my opinion, your rapier can be classified as a 19th c. Historismus (Victorian) hilt in late 16th c. style, with an older blade recycled.

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Hi Gene,

In my opinion, your rapier can be classified as a 19th c. Historismus (Victorian) hilt in late 16th c. style, with an older blade recycled.

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Michael
Oh, i was gonna say Manufre Rle du Klingenthal 1825-1830, Poinçons COLLIOTdela HATTAIS Augustin, Mathurin
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Exactly, 'Nando,

The blade is of early 19th c. date.

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Hi gentlemen.

Another teaser pic. Notice that one shell is slightly larger?
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Old 21st November 2011, 10:58 PM   #9
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Oh, i was gonna say Manufre Rle du Klingenthal 1825-1830, Poinçons COLLIOTdela HATTAIS Augustin, Mathurin
Sorry mate, what does that mean?
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Comparison with other rapiers and swords showing the similarity in length to 19thC sabres
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Old 21st November 2011, 11:34 PM   #11
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Sorry mate, what does that mean?
That mark on the blade is so much like that of an inspector "poinçon" at the French Manufacture de Klingenthal.
... And the few letters readable on the ricasso could match with the word Klingenthal.
But let's hear what Jim has to say about this sword .

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Old 22nd November 2011, 10:03 AM   #12
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Hi Gene,

In my opinion, your rapier can be classified as a 19th c. Historismus (Victorian) hilt in late 16th c. style, with an older blade recycled.

Best,
Michael
Hi Michael,

I do find these late anomalies to be very interesting. I've had and seen some very fancy 19thC constructions before, but this one although plainer than many, has the edge in balance and functionality.
I'm very pleased with it
Thanks again
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... Jim!!! ... You are not just our star but one of the very few true warriors around!!!
An warrior yes ... but not an old warrior
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