German Wootz???

ariel · 20th February 2008, 01:48 AM

Here is a European saber with German markings.
Look at the blade: it looks wootz to me.
Wootz in 18th century Germany?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=017

Jeff D · 20th February 2008, 02:01 AM

Hi Ariel,

It looks like a nice mechanical Damascus. Very popular in Germany during the 19th century.

All the Best
Jeff

Jim McDougall · 20th February 2008, 07:45 AM

It does appear to be in the style of 18th century Austrian and German cavalry sabres, and the blade has most unusual fullering and profile, in addition to the clearly spurious man in the moon marking.

Richard Furrer · 20th February 2008, 06:13 PM

Hello All,
I do not know much about the swords of that location or time period, but the steel is more like that resulting from alloy banding than anything else.
The wave appears to come from the forging process (small radius fullers to draw out the steel).
I do not believe this to be wootz or pattern-welding.

This is a subject much debated in modern bladesmithing circles.
Here is such a link:
http://forums.dfoggknives.com/index.php?showtopic=8795

Ric

20th February 2008, 01:48 AM	#1
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	German Wootz??? Here is a European saber with German markings. Look at the blade: it looks wootz to me. Wootz in 18th century Germany? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=017

20th February 2008, 02:01 AM	#2
Jeff D Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: B.C. Canada Posts: 473	Hi Ariel, It looks like a nice mechanical Damascus. Very popular in Germany during the 19th century. All the Best Jeff

20th February 2008, 07:45 AM	#3
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 9,947	It does appear to be in the style of 18th century Austrian and German cavalry sabres, and the blade has most unusual fullering and profile, in addition to the clearly spurious man in the moon marking.

20th February 2008, 06:13 PM	#4
Richard Furrer Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sturgeon Bay, Wisconsin Posts: 163	Hello All, I do not know much about the swords of that location or time period, but the steel is more like that resulting from alloy banding than anything else. The wave appears to come from the forging process (small radius fullers to draw out the steel). I do not believe this to be wootz or pattern-welding. This is a subject much debated in modern bladesmithing circles. Here is such a link: http://forums.dfoggknives.com/index.php?showtopic=8795 Ric