Blade for ID

fernando · 10th July 2010, 07:54 PM

I take it that this is European, but am not sure.
It is only sharpened in the front section, amazingly more in one edge than in the other, but i suspect this wasn't deliberate but due to its rustic make.
A rather thick blade.
Missing the handle; could it be wood?
Would it be a short handle, or the tang was only iserted in part of its length?
Would love to hear your coments on this thing.
Fernando

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Atlantia · 10th July 2010, 08:10 PM

Looks like it was made to be thrown Nando.

fernando · 10th July 2010, 08:17 PM

Thanks for the prompt reaction, Gene

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That was also my first reaction.
Assuming that, i went browsing on throwing knives; this one is too sturdy, and once had a handle.
Its weight is 342 grs. (3/4 oz).
It didn't seem (to me) the right shape for a throwing knife.
So i quit the possibility ... so far

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Fernando

Matchlock · 10th July 2010, 10:44 PM

Hi 'Nando,

Another remarkable piece for your collection! You seem to be extraordinarily active !!!: cool:

As you know I'm not especially focussed on edged arms but on briefing my library I would say it is

a) not very common

b) of Hispanian/Portuguese rather than of Mid European provenance

c) to me it seems to show some old Italian pre-Cinquedean influence and therefore might be dated to either the 1st half to the 16th or the 19th century when the Historismus period reenlivened all the Late Gothic/Early Renaissance shapes.

I like it a lot, anyways!

Best, mi amigo,
Michl

broadaxe · 11th July 2010, 11:24 PM

This shape tell me of two different origins:
1. Throwing knife indeed, the rather large size and distal taper suggest it is an item made to an expert, possibly a circus thrower. The small hilt area is typical, the grips were usualy of thick leather or fiber, riveted through (check for example the knives made by world famous thrower/knifemaker Harry McEvoy http://www.robertg.com/knifethrowing.htm).
2. Puntilla, Spanish bullfighting dagger, it resembles a throwing knife http://www.loveleaf.net/ts/652.html

Dmitry · 12th July 2010, 06:21 AM

Could also be a spear/pike head..?

10th July 2010, 07:54 PM	#1
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Blade for ID I take it that this is European, but am not sure. It is only sharpened in the front section, amazingly more in one edge than in the other, but i suspect this wasn't deliberate but due to its rustic make. A rather thick blade. Missing the handle; could it be wood? Would it be a short handle, or the tang was only iserted in part of its length? Would love to hear your coments on this thing. Fernando . Attached Images

10th July 2010, 10:44 PM	#4
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi 'Nando, Another remarkable piece for your collection! You seem to be extraordinarily active !!!: cool: As you know I'm not especially focussed on edged arms but on briefing my library I would say it is a) not very common b) of Hispanian/Portuguese rather than of Mid European provenance c) to me it seems to show some old Italian pre-Cinquedean influence and therefore might be dated to either the 1st half to the 16th or the 19th century when the Historismus period reenlivened all the Late Gothic/Early Renaissance shapes. I like it a lot, anyways! Best, mi amigo, Michl Last edited by Matchlock; 10th July 2010 at 10:55 PM.

10th July 2010, 08:10 PM	#2
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Looks like it was made to be thrown Nando.

10th July 2010, 08:17 PM	#3
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Thanks for the prompt reaction, Gene . That was also my first reaction. Assuming that, i went browsing on throwing knives; this one is too sturdy, and once had a handle. Its weight is 342 grs. (3/4 oz). It didn't seem (to me) the right shape for a throwing knife. So i quit the possibility ... so far . Fernando

11th July 2010, 11:24 PM	#5
broadaxe Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 332	This shape tell me of two different origins: 1. Throwing knife indeed, the rather large size and distal taper suggest it is an item made to an expert, possibly a circus thrower. The small hilt area is typical, the grips were usualy of thick leather or fiber, riveted through (check for example the knives made by world famous thrower/knifemaker Harry McEvoy http://www.robertg.com/knifethrowing.htm). 2. Puntilla, Spanish bullfighting dagger, it resembles a throwing knife http://www.loveleaf.net/ts/652.html

12th July 2010, 06:21 AM	#6
Dmitry Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 607	Could also be a spear/pike head..?