need some help about my new keris

auk · 9th September 2013, 05:22 PM

hello here my keris please help me to tell me about it wat kind of keris it is
its in oil becauce it was rusty ,
hope the picture,s will help
greetings auk

A. G. Maisey · 10th September 2013, 10:52 AM

Do you mean dhapur? geographic origin? tangguh? isi? tuah?

I cannot give positive answers from pictures, only probabilities or sometimes only possibilities, but it is a Javanese keris, probably East Jawa, in the hand it might be classifiable as Majapahit.

That's about as far as I'm prepared to go without much better photos.

auk · 10th September 2013, 11:13 AM

hello thanks fore the reply i wil try to make better pics
yes i am curious about all informtion i can get about this keris
dhapur geographic origin tangguh isi tuah
thanx again fore the help and information
greetings auk

David · 10th September 2013, 07:56 PM

Thanks for the additional photos Auk. A very interesting keris. All i can add to what Alan has stated, even with the additional images, is that the dhapur appears to be some form of damar murub, with the three luks appearing at the very end of the blade as they do, but i have never seen one with quite these same features and can only assume that the dhapur here requires some other names to fully describe it. I would still like to see some clear close-ups of the gandik as i am having a hard time figuring out just what the form is here. If it is not simply that the form is eroded by time i do not quite recognize what is supposed to be from the photos. I can't tell if i am looking at a sekar kacang that has been eroded or pushed flat against the blade or if this is meant to represent a human figure as in a keris putut. Also interesting is the deep central fuller of the blade that blade that extends almost to the tip. These are features i have not seen on other damar murub blades. Perhaps Alan has some better ideas with these new photos.

auk · 11th September 2013, 09:23 AM

Hi david thanx fore the reply i think the keris is verry interesting to nice forms,
i dont think its a putut because like you said is was pushed flat .
the deep central fuller of the blade i like it verry much its verry nice and smooth.
i wil post another foto hope it wil be clear enough to help to identify the keris.
thanks again fore thinking.
greetings auk.

A. G. Maisey · 11th September 2013, 10:39 AM

Thanks for the better pics Auk.

I really cannot add anything to what I've already said, except that based upon what I can see I would not give it a Majapahit classification.

I cannot give it a dhapur, but I am virtually certain it is East Jawa.

Rather a nice thing actually.

9th September 2013, 05:22 PM	#1
auk Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 28	keris identification with ganja wilut(sepang)urubing damar hello here my keris please help me to tell me about it wat kind of keris it is its in oil becauce it was rusty , hope the picture,s will help greetings auk Attached Images Last edited by auk; 9th September 2013 at 08:47 PM.

10th September 2013, 11:13 AM	#3
auk Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 28	hello thanks fore the reply i wil try to make better pics yes i am curious about all informtion i can get about this keris dhapur geographic origin tangguh isi tuah thanx again fore the help and information greetings auk Attached Images

11th September 2013, 09:23 AM	#5
auk Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 28	Hi david thanx fore the reply i think the keris is verry interesting to nice forms, i dont think its a putut because like you said is was pushed flat . the deep central fuller of the blade i like it verry much its verry nice and smooth. i wil post another foto hope it wil be clear enough to help to identify the keris. thanks again fore thinking. greetings auk. Attached Images

10th September 2013, 10:52 AM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,897	Do you mean dhapur? geographic origin? tangguh? isi? tuah? I cannot give positive answers from pictures, only probabilities or sometimes only possibilities, but it is a Javanese keris, probably East Jawa, in the hand it might be classifiable as Majapahit. That's about as far as I'm prepared to go without much better photos.

10th September 2013, 07:56 PM	#4
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,127	Thanks for the additional photos Auk. A very interesting keris. All i can add to what Alan has stated, even with the additional images, is that the dhapur appears to be some form of damar murub, with the three luks appearing at the very end of the blade as they do, but i have never seen one with quite these same features and can only assume that the dhapur here requires some other names to fully describe it. I would still like to see some clear close-ups of the gandik as i am having a hard time figuring out just what the form is here. If it is not simply that the form is eroded by time i do not quite recognize what is supposed to be from the photos. I can't tell if i am looking at a sekar kacang that has been eroded or pushed flat against the blade or if this is meant to represent a human figure as in a keris putut. Also interesting is the deep central fuller of the blade that blade that extends almost to the tip. These are features i have not seen on other damar murub blades. Perhaps Alan has some better ideas with these new photos.

11th September 2013, 10:39 AM	#6
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,897	Thanks for the better pics Auk. I really cannot add anything to what I've already said, except that based upon what I can see I would not give it a Majapahit classification. I cannot give it a dhapur, but I am virtually certain it is East Jawa. Rather a nice thing actually.